tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post8057961227961403102..comments2023-05-12T07:00:35.194-05:00Comments on Two Empty Hands: Which came first the community or the Scripture?Scott Savagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3580691869547092962009-05-25T10:23:40.775-05:002009-05-25T10:23:40.775-05:00I'd also add that the Eucharist is about a reality...I'd also add that the Eucharist is about a reality that stands over and above the interpretive community. As I was thinking about it, the Eucharistic meal indicates that the final move is always God eschatologically calling our lives, i.e. our interpretations into question. We work hard to discern the pattern of the Jesus way for our time and place only as a people whose conclusion's are simultaneously called into question.Scott Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-16067889578065313112009-05-22T07:08:01.416-05:002009-05-22T07:08:01.416-05:00Yes, the Eucharist reminds us, as Hauerwas states,...Yes, the Eucharist reminds us, as Hauerwas states, that the Scripture is not self-interpreting.Scott Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2020849817541957312009-05-20T12:35:42.161-05:002009-05-20T12:35:42.161-05:00Furthermore, if I might add, "Scripture can be rig...Furthermore, if I might add, "Scripture can be rightly interpreted only within the practices of a body of people constituted by the unity found in the Eucharist.' (p. 23)rick savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16967309711777899335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-71650364700065685172009-05-19T11:35:00.000-05:002009-05-19T11:35:00.000-05:00Through Hauerwas we might say that the Church in t...Through Hauerwas we might say that the Church in the power of the Holy Spirit is the reality that makes the Scripture possible.Scott Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-60670776753624475192009-05-19T10:43:00.000-05:002009-05-19T10:43:00.000-05:00Brian,
Your mentioning Hays reminded me of what M...Brian,<br /><br />Your mentioning Hays reminded me of what McKnight says in <I>The Blue Parakeet</I>. Essentially, he says that the bible reveals a pattern of discernment and that it is authoritative because that pattern of discernment helps us discern for our own times and places. I think this guards against the particularity of Scripture, thus allowing it remain appropriately contextual. But is also doesn't negate the authority of Scripture. It is that to which we return so that we can be immersed in a story in which we are simultaneously already characters. We might say the Scripture IS the community because it is a pattern of discernment from those who have gone before, a gift for us by our neighbor in the power of the Holy Spirit (divine inspiration?) for faithfulness.<br /><br />But who can say it all in one blog post. <br /><br />Hope things are going well with you!Scott Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-11460175119568809502009-05-19T01:20:00.000-05:002009-05-19T01:20:00.000-05:00This has always been interesting to me. I'm in agr...This has always been interesting to me. I'm in agreement for the most part. <br /><br />I like Richard Hayse's Moral Vision of the New Testament here. What was first, chicken or egg? Perhaps it's not either/or as you've suggested, but both/and. <br /><br />In some sense, these texts were so localized and so embodied, that I wonder if it's not incorrect to say, "the text was the community," and "the community was the text." They are inseparable. It's only in our modern sensibility that we are able to separate the two. Like the Hebrew understanding of knowledge (yada-to know). Knowledge can never be separated from active responsibility towards that knowledge. <br /><br />Of course this is very controversial in our circles--in requires at the least a modified vision of divine inspiration.Brian Postlewaithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12052468002837925189noreply@blogger.com