<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875</id><updated>2012-01-28T16:26:40.348-06:00</updated><category term='Hans Urs von Balthasar'/><category term='media'/><category term='Alexander Schmemann'/><category term='John Wright'/><category term='New Atheism'/><category term='Confession'/><category term='China'/><category term='books'/><category term='Ed Young'/><category term='Evangelism'/><category term='Clayton Schmidt'/><category term='Neo-Reformed'/><category term='Apple'/><category term='Dana Walling'/><category term='Rob Bell'/><category term='2012'/><category term='Steve Jobs'/><category term='Songs'/><category term='Sexy'/><category term='stanley hauerwas'/><category term='Dolly Parton'/><category term='Acts 29 Network'/><category term='Sexperiment'/><category term='Mike Daisey'/><category term='Humor'/><category term='Rowan Williams'/><category term='Evangelicalism'/><category term='This American Life'/><category term='Working Poor'/><category term='Mark Driscoll'/><category term='Hymns'/><category term='John Piper'/><category term='Mars Hill'/><category term='Church Discipline'/><category term='Christmas'/><category term='Advent'/><category term='Best Picture'/><category term='music'/><category term='Oscars'/><category term='Art'/><category term='Richard Dawkins'/><category term='Poverty'/><category term='David Bentley Hart'/><category term='Preaching'/><category term='television'/><category term='Scripture'/><category term='Sermon'/><category term='theologian'/><category term='The Art of Confession'/><category term='Church'/><category term='Paul Wilkes'/><category term='Social Injustice'/><category term='Preaching.'/><category term='Christianity'/><category term='film'/><category term='William Cavanaugh'/><category term='pastor'/><title type='text'>Two Empty Hands</title><subtitle type='html'>"The thought of your stirs him so deeply that he cannot be content unless he praises you, because you made us for yourself and our hearts find no peace unless they rest in you" (St. Augustine).</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>272</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5592515833567945708</id><published>2012-01-28T16:26:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-28T16:26:40.371-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='This American Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike Daisey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Working Poor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Poverty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dana Walling'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Social Injustice'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sexy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apple'/><title type='text'>Social Injustice and the Paradox of Industry</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gDJjfhjNeko/TpLWLf4vcPI/AAAAAAAAAdM/4Sxq3TddVv8/s1600/help+%25282%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gDJjfhjNeko/TpLWLf4vcPI/AAAAAAAAAdM/4Sxq3TddVv8/s200/help+%25282%2529.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A couple of weeks ago I blogged about a radio show I listen to called This American Life. They aired an excerpt from a monologue by a guy named Mike Daisey. You can find it &lt;a href="http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/speaking-out.html" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. The monologue was about his trip to China where he visited a factory that makes Apple products. It was a very interesting and challenging piece as it raised many questions about social justice and the seemingly insurmountable issues we face these days. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then I have heard a lot about Apple and China and the injustices that many of these workers face on a daily basis. You can read a couple of articles from the New York Times &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/global/07suicide.html?pagewanted=all" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html?pagewanted=all" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, one of them about recent suicides from these factory workers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I was making my way through my email inbox this morning, I came across an email from the people over at change.org. You may have heard about the lady who started a petition through them to get Bank of American to drop their debit card fee. Well, this petition was to try and get Apple to improve working conditions at the factories where iPhones and iPads are made. Don't worry I am not going to ask you to sign anything, but if you want check it out click &lt;a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/apple-ceo-tim-cook-protect-workers-making-iphones-in-chinese-factories?utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_source=action_alert" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It occurred to me that going up against Apple is the sexy way to protest and work for change. And perhaps it is still the best way. I don't know. By going up against the giants of industry, one could force a greater amount of change. Public embarrassment and the possibility of profit loss is a great motivator.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what about the injustices that we never hear about because they aren't sexy enough?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Going up against these things doesn't get our name in the paper or on the news or a video gone viral on YouTube.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But these things still matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, for example, in the US these people are the working poor, the nameless faceless people who make too much for welfare but not enough to live. They are one paycheck away from the streets, but they live in slum housing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've said before that at least in the US we can't live here without participating in the so-called poverty and injustices of the world. Nevertheless, at least for the church, we have to start somewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lately it seems like I keep hearing something I heard back when I was in college from a guy named Dana Walling. "Everyday find out what you can do for Jesus and do it."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least for the church (I don't know about everyone else), we have to resist the urge to always go for the big win and instead give ourselves over to that gospel movement that has been going for thousands of years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The big wins come accidentally and only because we have dared to look our neighbor in the eye and see the face of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If all we ever do is go for the big win then our neighbors who are about to hit the streets will remain anonymous to us and that would be a damn shame.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5592515833567945708?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5592515833567945708/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5592515833567945708&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5592515833567945708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5592515833567945708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/social-injustice-and-paradox-of.html' title='Social Injustice and the Paradox of Industry'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gDJjfhjNeko/TpLWLf4vcPI/AAAAAAAAAdM/4Sxq3TddVv8/s72-c/help+%25282%2529.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3091526126390064973</id><published>2012-01-27T11:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-27T11:49:12.957-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mark Driscoll'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Discipline'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Neo-Reformed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Acts 29 Network'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Scripture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Piper'/><title type='text'>More on Mark Driscoll</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3157432806_91c7437abb.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3157432806_91c7437abb.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The old adage is that there's no such thing as bad publicity, the idea being that it's all good as long as people are talking about you, no matter what you are saying or doing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's true to an extent, but even for Hollywood stars, who seem to receive more grace than anyone else, the bell will toll.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tend not to play that angry critic game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not out to get anyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I criticize, I hope it is always for the sake of something constructive. Even as the best construction is good deconstruction, they must be in the right order, if can say it that way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enough throat clearing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mark Driscoll (I won't link to him, go find him yourself) has been in the news lately, a little more so than usual, and not in a good way. He's the pastor of a church in Seattle, decisively Neo-Reformed (of the John Piper flavor), and brutish as many have criticized his male chauvinism, machismo, version of Christianity that puts men on a pedestal and views woman as inferior, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's a lot of speculation out there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; gets all up in arms about differing version of the Christian tradition (except for maybe the Reformed folk, but then that's pretty telling). Anymore there is very generous conversation happening about what it means to be the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Driscoll's Neo-Reformed version of Christianity, as such, does not bother me. I have some issues with it that I would gladly discuss, but I'm not mad at anyone. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What concerns me most that leads me to the things that I do get mad over are how theologies play themselves out. For example, Neo-Reformed theologies can lend themselves to forming very angry and closed minded and prideful people who often seem to have more faith in the bible than in Jesus. And really more faith in themselves than whatever god they confess to believe in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(As an aside, I actually read a blog post comment where someone claimed that Christians need to obey the bible. It is a serious problem if the bible, and not the God spoken of in the bible, is to be obey.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Case in point - about how our theologies actually play themselves out - is the story I stumbled upon recently. Not long ago I started to wonder when the first-hand stories would start to fly about Mark Driscoll from people who have been involved in his church. &lt;a href="http://matthewpaulturner.net/jesus-needs-new-pr/mark-driscolls-church-discipline-contract-looking-for-true-repentance-at-mars-hill-church-sign-on-the-dotted-line/" target="_blank"&gt;You can read the story here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, it's a story about an attempt at how Driscoll's church attempted to "discipline" some guy who was "in sin" that just went seriously bad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the first one of its kind that I've found, but I'm sure there are more out there. It's long, but you got to read it all the way through.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why mention all of this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because in our celebrity culture where people can manipulate any amount of media/social networking with any amount of organizational skill - and Driscoll's Acts 29 Network is extremely organized - people can get away with a lot. I let a lot of stuff slide, but something is happening to Driscoll that just seems vicious to me and if this story is true in any way then there are things rippling out into Driscoll's wider leadership base/influence that are really unhealthy, the second being their abusive use of Scripture. The fist being their misspeaking of the God that has revealed Himself in Jesus. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope I'm not misunderstood. I hope this is received generously. I welcome correction and feedback from those who know. I am an outsider, like most of us, looking in. But from what I can tell, there is more damage being done than anything else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where am I wrong? What am I missing?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3091526126390064973?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3091526126390064973/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3091526126390064973&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3091526126390064973'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3091526126390064973'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/old-adage-is-that-theres-no-such-thing.html' title='More on Mark Driscoll'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3157432806_91c7437abb_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6801151224237353233</id><published>2012-01-26T08:01:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T08:01:37.277-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Oscars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Best Picture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='film'/><title type='text'>2012 Oscars</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bF4oR7T2Pv0/TsOdIY4xX6I/AAAAAAAAA3M/1WSbssakVA0/s1600/Oscars-Academy-Award-2012.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="127" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bF4oR7T2Pv0/TsOdIY4xX6I/AAAAAAAAA3M/1WSbssakVA0/s200/Oscars-Academy-Award-2012.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's Oscar time again! I'd love to hear your feedback on what you've seen and how you liked or hated it. I've listed below only the nominees for best picture, but feel free to draw my attention to something else I should be paying attention to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;BEST PICTURE&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The Artist&lt;br /&gt;The Descendants &lt;br /&gt;Extremely Loud &amp;amp; Incredibly Close&lt;br /&gt;The Help&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;Hugo&lt;br /&gt;Midnight in Paris&lt;br /&gt;Moneyball&lt;br /&gt;Tree of Life&lt;br /&gt;War Horse&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WWbZF0vzWBI/Tu60uSqA4CI/AAAAAAAAGxg/k_F3hsW24rg/s1600/the-descendants-movie-poster-2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="149" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WWbZF0vzWBI/Tu60uSqA4CI/AAAAAAAAGxg/k_F3hsW24rg/s200/the-descendants-movie-poster-2.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;So far, of the best picture films, I've seen &lt;i&gt;The Descendants&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Midnight in Paris&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Moneyball&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;Tree of Life.&lt;/i&gt; Of what I've seen, my guess is that &lt;i&gt;The Descendants&lt;/i&gt; will win best picture. I suspect, though, that others would have something to say about &lt;i&gt;The Artist&lt;/i&gt; as the favorite. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll try to comment more on these films as I see them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6801151224237353233?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6801151224237353233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6801151224237353233&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6801151224237353233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6801151224237353233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/2012-oscars.html' title='2012 Oscars'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bF4oR7T2Pv0/TsOdIY4xX6I/AAAAAAAAA3M/1WSbssakVA0/s72-c/Oscars-Academy-Award-2012.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1190883307514365070</id><published>2012-01-23T16:09:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T16:09:24.021-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Bentley Hart'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rowan Williams'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='New Atheism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christianity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Richard Dawkins'/><title type='text'>Rowan Williams to debate Richard Dawkins</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2010/11/Rowan_Williams_1110959c.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="125" src="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2010/11/Rowan_Williams_1110959c.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I just found out that Rowan Williams will debate Richard Dawkins. Williams is the head of the Anglican Communion and Dawkins is a prominent voice in the so called "new atheist" movement, people like Richard Dawkins, Same Harris, and Christopher Hitchens. The details of the event can be found &lt;a href="https://www.alumni.ox.ac.uk/page.aspx?pid=1521" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any thoughts on how this will turn out? Does anyone know if they will stream this for the rest of us?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PAerUb8JeNU/SbDD1VDExSI/AAAAAAAAADM/BNzJquYpdBU/s400/Richard-Dawkins-2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PAerUb8JeNU/SbDD1VDExSI/AAAAAAAAADM/BNzJquYpdBU/s200/Richard-Dawkins-2.jpg" width="190" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;For a sneak peak, check out &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DcySbAt-l4" target="_blank"&gt;this exchange&lt;/a&gt; between Williams and Dawkins from a few years ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might also check out &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cpx/id280786104" target="_blank"&gt;this audio interview&lt;/a&gt; with David Bentley Hart (it's number 12 on the list). Hart is not one to pull punches when it comes to the new atheists, accusing people such as Dawkins as lacking "the training, perhaps the aptitude ... to understand the metaphysical tradition" he critiques, and this interview doesn't disappoint. I haven't read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Atheist-Delusions-Christian-Revolution-Fashionable/dp/0300111908" target="_blank"&gt;Hart's book&lt;/a&gt; on this topic, but I am sure he takes him and others to task there as well. The interview is a little heady because that's how Hart rolls, but nevertheless it's pretty interesting stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Couple of question: (1) If you're an atheist, do you find a person like Dawkins to be someone who speaks for you, who voices your concerns? (2) If you're an atheist, does Williams offer at least a decent take on Christianity that's different from the normal outspoken evangelical right perspective? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm just wondering how much I should listen to Dawkins if he's not speaking for a majority of new atheists. I'm also wondering how much Williams is able to offer at least a helpful Christian perspective that takes science seriously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me know what you think!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1190883307514365070?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1190883307514365070/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1190883307514365070&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1190883307514365070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1190883307514365070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/rowan-williams-to-debate-richard.html' title='Rowan Williams to debate Richard Dawkins'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PAerUb8JeNU/SbDD1VDExSI/AAAAAAAAADM/BNzJquYpdBU/s72-c/Richard-Dawkins-2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7478793755390447823</id><published>2012-01-23T07:58:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-23T07:58:33.742-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Confession'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Art of Confession'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Paul Wilkes'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelicalism'/><title type='text'>The Art of Confession</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://marriagelifeministries.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/confessing31.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="160" src="http://marriagelifeministries.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/confessing31.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I often feel that I am partly recovering from Evangelicalism, partly rejecting it, and partly redeeming it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And all at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, I was glad that yesterday was the first time our church made confession one of the movements of our worship service. And because of my partly-Evangelical existence, I was also glad to stumble across &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-wilkes/the-art-of-confession-what-is-confession_b_1202633.html?ref=religion" target="_blank"&gt;an article by Paul Wilkes&lt;/a&gt; about his new book The Art of Confession, who I think is parsing out in a good way what confession is and how it's abused, both by those doing the confessing and the requiring it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He says, &lt;span style="color: #444444;"&gt;"In my own religious tradition, Catholicism, the word 'Confession' has a very specific meaning. That is not what I'm talking about here ... Confession is first and foremost a conversation with our selves ... When we take an honest look at confession, we quickly see that it is a pillar not only of religious belief, but mental health. It demands something for which there is no substitute: that we be honest with ourselves."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wilkes is a &lt;i&gt;C&lt;/i&gt;atholic writing about confession in a very &lt;i&gt;c&lt;/i&gt;atholic way, but that's not what struck me about the article. He seems attune to the pulse of Western (North American) culture and our glib attempts at self-reflection and truth. This is a really keen observation!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #444444;"&gt;"This kind of confession, which demands self-reflection and change, has little to do with the flood of confessional disclosures that characterize our age -- on tell-all TV talk shows and social networking sites, even via an iPhone app for confession. In this time of Internet connectivity, amid the din of oversharing, we mistake spasms of self-revelation for honesty. Our inner voice is not so easily found and cannot be parsed into ten-second bursts. That voice needs time to find the right words to say and the right place to say them."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In our overly fragmented and individualistic world, people are chomping at the bit to be seen and heard and confession is often used in a grotesque way to simply steal the spotlight for a few more minutes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wilkes is right that confession, before it is anything, is a conversation you have with yourself behind closed doors. The worse kind of lie is self-deception. Most of what we see in the media are faux confessions - half truths - from people who just want someone to know the truth but just don't know how to say it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My suggestion: tell one person. After you know the truth, only one other person needs to know it. This is what confession is for the church, or least what it should be. It's not a total share all story on 60 Minutes. It's you and a friend in total disclosure. And only then, maybe, once we have moved beyond the defining Sin that so required our need to confess, will it be possible to share our story with the world, but that is not the norm.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7478793755390447823?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7478793755390447823/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7478793755390447823&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7478793755390447823'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7478793755390447823'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/art-of-confession.html' title='The Art of Confession'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6944614155579070592</id><published>2012-01-21T08:48:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T08:48:09.312-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='This American Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mike Daisey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Confession'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='China'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Steve Jobs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apple'/><title type='text'>Speaking Out</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.macgasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/this-american-life-apple-factory.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="132" src="http://www.macgasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/this-american-life-apple-factory.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Like many of you, I am an avid listener of a radio show called &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/" target="_blank"&gt;This American Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;i&gt;TAL&lt;/i&gt;). This past week they did a piece called &lt;a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/454/mr-daisey-and-the-apple-factory" target="_blank"&gt;Mr Daisey and the Apple Factory&lt;/a&gt; that I thought was one of their better shows of late. The first half of the show is an excerpt from one of &lt;a href="http://mikedaisey.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Mike Daisey's&lt;/a&gt; monologue performances. I first heard of Mike Daisey when I came across &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IeMtQ-SZtA" target="_blank"&gt;this clip&lt;/a&gt; of a group of Christians walking out of his show in protest (watch your computer volume, he's a bit colorful). One of them even walked up on stage and dumped a glass of water on his notes. As a Christian myself, I was furious at this kind of ignorance, that those of us who confess to be followers of Jesus could be so hateful at someone like Daisey who seems to be so keenly aware of our culture problems and even ballsy enough to actually go to China and speak out. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/imager/b/magnum/4748941/f48a/theaterbox2-570x300.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="105" src="http://www.portlandmercury.com/imager/b/magnum/4748941/f48a/theaterbox2-570x300.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Anyways, the excerpt comes from his new monologue called &lt;i&gt;The Agony and Ecstasy of Steve Jobs&lt;/i&gt;. In the excerpt from the show he tells of his infatuation with Apple products, his trip to China (Shenzhen to be precise), and the woes of our technological age, not least of which is our ignorance of where the products we buy come from and how it affects the lives of the people in other countries who make them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I loved most about the show was how it fairly portrayed the complexity of the issue. Neither Daisey nor &lt;i&gt;This American Life&lt;/i&gt; criticize Apple with a holier-than-thou attitude. Daisey is clearly fan and &lt;i&gt;TAL&lt;/i&gt; remarked at the end of their show that, as always, the show was produced entirely on Apple products. I myself listened to the show on my Apple iPod and am writing this post on my Apple laptop computer. The show notes that even the people of Shenzhen are conflicted, that while there are a number of problems that need to be addressed regarding the question(s) of justice, these jobs have made possible a certain quality of life that wasn't their before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find this kind of critique refreshing. I am not big fan of finger pointing, mostly because I can't extract myself from all of the problems of the world. To throw rocks at others as if it's entirely their fault is unhelpful and ignorant. At least for people in the West, and North American's in particular (my culture and the only culture I can and should speak of with any amount of confidence), we can't even drive on roads without being implicated in the injustices of the world, whether it be oil, deforestation, air pollution, or more. Same goes for politics, but that's another issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I recommend we all listen to this show and let it seep into our consciences. And if you just have to finger point, at least confess your own Sins first. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6944614155579070592?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6944614155579070592/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6944614155579070592&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6944614155579070592'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6944614155579070592'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/speaking-out.html' title='Speaking Out'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6170787203324058311</id><published>2012-01-13T07:38:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-13T07:38:41.275-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sexperiment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dolly Parton'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ed Young'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humor'/><title type='text'>Strategically placed advertising</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oVcoZusbHfs/TxAzc5AMKtI/AAAAAAAAAF0/_NvVuTGRau8/s1600/Picture+2.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="184" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oVcoZusbHfs/TxAzc5AMKtI/AAAAAAAAAF0/_NvVuTGRau8/s200/Picture+2.png" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;For those you who ever had a crush on Dolly Parton, I clicked on a link to read an article about Ed Young's new book, "Sexperiment" and I thought the advertisement on the page was kind of funny.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6170787203324058311?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6170787203324058311/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6170787203324058311&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6170787203324058311'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6170787203324058311'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/strategically-placed-advertising.html' title='Strategically placed advertising'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oVcoZusbHfs/TxAzc5AMKtI/AAAAAAAAAF0/_NvVuTGRau8/s72-c/Picture+2.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6795668278606388511</id><published>2012-01-01T15:11:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T15:11:35.884-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humor'/><title type='text'>Mount Stupid</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDvGibOYYmU/TvsmblSPQgI/AAAAAAAAAlY/4qP_SzvwSq8/s400/Mount+Stupid.gif" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDvGibOYYmU/TvsmblSPQgI/AAAAAAAAAlY/4qP_SzvwSq8/s200/Mount+Stupid.gif" width="150" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you can't see mount stupid,&lt;br /&gt;you're on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6795668278606388511?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6795668278606388511/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6795668278606388511&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6795668278606388511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6795668278606388511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/mount-stupid.html' title='Mount Stupid'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RDvGibOYYmU/TvsmblSPQgI/AAAAAAAAAlY/4qP_SzvwSq8/s72-c/Mount+Stupid.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-622542671053632190</id><published>2012-01-01T08:58:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T08:58:46.260-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='2012'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='books'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='film'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Art'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='television'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='media'/><title type='text'>For 2012...</title><content type='html'>Okay, I need your help. What books, film, music, television, and any other art should I partake of in 2012? Could be brand new but also not. I enjoy exploring the depths of the past as well. Come on, give me some good stuff, people!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-622542671053632190?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/622542671053632190/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=622542671053632190&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/622542671053632190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/622542671053632190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2012/01/for-2012.html' title='For 2012...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5822327603713823565</id><published>2011-12-26T09:19:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-26T09:20:06.664-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Wright'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='William Cavanaugh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Advent'/><title type='text'>Signs of hope</title><content type='html'>Check out &lt;a href="http://www.pastorjohnwright.org/archives/2011/12/more-migrations.html#more"&gt;a really good post&lt;/a&gt; by one of my old college professors, John Wright!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5822327603713823565?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5822327603713823565/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5822327603713823565&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5822327603713823565'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5822327603713823565'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2011/12/signs-of-hope.html' title='Signs of hope'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3262262951018938132</id><published>2011-12-25T06:01:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-27T09:11:13.917-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Songs'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hymns'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hans Urs von Balthasar'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Alexander Schmemann'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christmas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church'/><title type='text'>Christmas - To make God come alive</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;style&gt;&lt;!-- /* Font Definitions */@font-face {font-family:"ＭＳ 明朝"; 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mso-default-props:yes; font-size:10.0pt; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-ascii-font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-fareast-font-family:"ＭＳ 明朝"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; mso-fareast-language:JA;}.MsoPapDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; margin-bottom:10.0pt;}@page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}--&gt;&lt;/style&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6J4GdiN9ogM/STxSrhVc85I/AAAAAAAABdc/WhRfGsNILqo/s400/nativity+siloutte080.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="145" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6J4GdiN9ogM/STxSrhVc85I/AAAAAAAABdc/WhRfGsNILqo/s200/nativity+siloutte080.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I stumbled upon this gem of quote byAlexander Schmemann that I have to pass on, even if it’s Christmas morning. Noone’s up yet, anyways. Here’s the quote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="color: #666666; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;"The child in thatdistant Bethlehem cave has no desire that we fear him; he enters our hearts notby frightening us, by proving his power and authority, but by love alone. He isgiven to us as a child, and only as children can we in turn love him and giveourselves to him. The world is ruled by authority and power, by fear anddomination. The child God liberates us from that. All he desires from us is ourlove, freely given and joyful; all he desires is that we give him our heart.And we give it to a defenseless, endlessly trusting child."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;I’ve often wonderedhow God can make Himself known to His creation without forcing anyone to believein Him. I’m that last person in the world that wants to be told what tobelieve. And yet, I sit here, a lifelong Christian because of my parents andothers along the way who helped me stay faithful? Why? Why didn’t I abandon italong the way as childish? I think it’s because the people in the church that Iknew understood Christmas and the revelation of God in this tiny baby.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;One of my favoriteChristmas hymns is “Hark the Herold Angels Sing.” It’s friggin’ brilliant, bothlyrically and musically (as far as hymns go, at least). There’s a line thatgoes like this: “Veiled in flesh that godhead see, Hail the incarnate deity.”It loses impact, of course, when it’s detached from the verse and music, butit’s still good. I think we read these lines and immediate imagine grownupJesus walking around the dusty roads of the middle east, and maybe even grownupJesus on the cross. But this verse is not just sung about grownup Jesus, but forbaby Jesus as well.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;The incarnate deityin this 6 lb 8oz little body (that’s just a guess. I honestly don’t know theprecise specs on the kid).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;If first impressionsare everything, then this Schememann quote reminds me that God’s firstimpression in the flesh was not His lambasting judgment on our sinfulness. Andactually, that’s never been anything God has been about, even in the OldTestament, despite some really tough passages where it seems like God isroyally pissed off. It’s still not WHAT He is ABOUT. Catch my drift? Really,God’s not mad at us.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;This quote reminds methat God’s first impression in the flesh is helplessness, an urgent appeal tohumanity to take care of Him, tend Him, and nurture Him into the world. Godcomes and says unless you feed me I will die. It seems God has made it so thatsomething is at stake in how we handle Him. It would seem, then, that even those who do not believe in God but lovetheir kids understand Christmas on a very deep and visceral level. And I imaginethat their hatred for God is not God’s fault but His church’s fault.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;The church thatforgets Christmas is the church the judges harshly and fiercely the sins ofothers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;The church that remembersChristmas remembers that we, like Mary, have been called to “birth” God intothe world and those of us with kids, or who know kids, understand that the onlyway to make a baby come alive is to keep it warm, feed, and dry, and then to lookdeeply into its eyes and make stupid goofy faces at it until it smiles. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;The church that doesthis is a credible church, for as von Balthasar so poignantly puts its, “Lovealone it credible.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;And now my family isup, so, Peace!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3262262951018938132?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3262262951018938132/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3262262951018938132&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3262262951018938132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3262262951018938132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2011/12/christmas-to-make-god-come-alive.html' title='Christmas - To make God come alive'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6J4GdiN9ogM/STxSrhVc85I/AAAAAAAABdc/WhRfGsNILqo/s72-c/nativity+siloutte080.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3288969039628655682</id><published>2011-12-23T14:39:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-23T14:40:15.945-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sermon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Clayton Schmidt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Art'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Preaching as Performance Art</title><content type='html'>&lt;style&gt;&lt;!-- /* Font Definitions */@font-face {font-family:"ＭＳ 明朝"; 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mso-default-props:yes; font-size:10.0pt; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-ascii-font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-fareast-font-family:"ＭＳ 明朝"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:"Gill Sans"; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; mso-fareast-language:JA;}.MsoPapDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; margin-bottom:10.0pt;}@page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}--&gt;&lt;/style&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://nerdsatthecooltable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/spoken_word.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://nerdsatthecooltable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/spoken_word.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I got into a conversation todayabout preaching – the goal of preaching, the various styles of it, and practitionersof it. And it got me thinking about an article that I once read by ClaytonSchmidt called “&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2011/spring/preachingperformance.html"&gt;Preaching is Performance Art&lt;/a&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;He says we have all heard preacherswho “employ an artificial set of communication skills divorced from ordinaryhuman life. These preachers assume that the purpose of the exegesis theylearned in seminary is to spring-load sermons with technical data that willimpress and subdue listeners. Or they spend all their time working on what tosay and no time at all on how to say it.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;These kinds of preachers, Schmidtsays, tempt us NOT to go to church.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;The opposite of this is also aproblem, people who deliver in order to draw attention to themselves and notGod –&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;“The wannabe comedian,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the preacher obsessed with culturalawareness,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the narrator that strings together poignantbut pointless stories,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the media maestro who spends hoursmastering digital techniques and only minutes on the message,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the preacher with an affected pulpittone,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the awkward speaker who has plentyto say but no confidence in delivery,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the masterful presenter whose messageis a string of banalities,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;the preacher who becomes convincedthat personal experience and ‘life message’ are more interesting than thegospel.” &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;Schmidt ask, “How can preacherspresent the gospel to their listeners without getting in the way?” Hissuggestion is to redeem a dirty work. “Preaching,” he says, “is performance.” Preachingis textual exegesis, contextual analysis, and creative writing, but“performance lies at the heart of proclamation.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;“When preaching is done masterfully,the preacher almost disappears.” The preacher isn’t showcasing his mad skillsas a communicator for the sake of the notoriety, nor is the preacherperforming for the sake of entertainment. When it comes to preaching,performance must point beyond itself or it does not achieve its goal.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;So how does this happen?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;Most importantly, the preacher mustinternalize his words. “If the preacher writes a meaningful word in the study,the next step is to turn that ink (or those computer pixels) into blood in thepulpit. The blood courses through the entire person of the one called upon tobe that moment’s incorporation of the Word of God.” Words must be delivered from within. If they are merely being lifted up off the page in the moment with no thoughtfulness as to how they might be heard in the moment then the magnitude of the spoken word is in jeopardy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;Performance takes practice, it takesa great deal on intention and thoughtfulness to think about what you want tosay and then say it in such a way that touches that hearts and minds of thosewho hear it, but not for the sake of merely experiencing a good performance. Infact, no one wants to merely experience a good performance. People want to bemoved and preaching that takes performance seriously has the power to do. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in; mso-add-space: auto; page-break-after: avoid;"&gt;What have I missed here? Does thiscause any problems for you &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3288969039628655682?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3288969039628655682/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3288969039628655682&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3288969039628655682'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3288969039628655682'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2011/12/preaching-as-performance-art.html' title='Preaching as Performance Art'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3663620476032990490</id><published>2011-12-22T16:14:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-23T09:13:36.693-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stanley hauerwas'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pastor'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='theologian'/><title type='text'>When we say "God"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://shortsaledailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/chp_shadow.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="160" src="http://shortsaledailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/chp_shadow.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It's hard out here for a pastor. The tendency towards professional expertise in our cutlure has formed pastors into the kinds of people who separate leadership, spiritual formation, social justice, evangelism, and education (so that we actually know something about the Christian tradition, the bible, and theology) from one another. Go to any church and pastors will embody one of these things more than the others. My problem is that I think that's okay. I think pastoring looks like all of this in a variety of different forms. The Spirit gives different gifts to different people, which means that every pastor has a different mix of what these things look like, which makes for very kinds of pastors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It doesn't justify that a pastor who is better at leadership should not also read theology or know something about prayer. The problem comes when people push towards one of these aspects as more important than the other. To me, these are the ingredient (and there are probably more) that God uses to shape and form different kinds of pastors for different kinds of work in the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need the leadership pastor that can organize and streamline processes. We need the wise sage who is really good spiritual formation, who knows how to ask the kinds of questions that melt away the resistance. We need the justice oriented person who reads newspaper and listens to politicians and knows when the city council is meeting and organize rallies and protests and shelters. We need deep readers of the faith who know the bible, tradition, and theology. We need these people!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we need them (me, us) to work together! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But is there a way to bring it all together?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An article by Stanley Hauerwas seems to help me here. In the article he is talking about what it means to be a theologian, but I don't separate very much being a "pastor" from being a "theologian" and vice versa. I think the end is same for both, it just comes in different ways (again, the spirit gives gifts). What Hauerwas says about being a theologian I want to also say about being a pastor:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is important to ask some to do nothing with their lives but to think about what we say when we say 'God.'"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do ya think?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;UPDATE: &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2011/12/22/3396908.htm"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to read the article.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3663620476032990490?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3663620476032990490/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3663620476032990490&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3663620476032990490'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3663620476032990490'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2011/12/when-we-say-god.html' title='When we say &quot;God&quot;'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6537610412914947208</id><published>2011-12-20T22:20:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T07:02:10.886-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sermon'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Bell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching.'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mars Hill'/><title type='text'>rob bell's "last" sermon</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: right;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.annarbor.com/assets_c/2011/03/rob-bell-thumb-250x270-72182.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://www.annarbor.com/assets_c/2011/03/rob-bell-thumb-250x270-72182.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Rob Bell gave his final words at Mars Hill this past Sunday. In an uncharacteristic fashion he read a letter he had composed - in the form of an epistle - rather than his normal extemporaneous style. At the close of this chapter in Bell's life, as well as our experience of him as a pastor, I'm wondering what other people's experience of Rob Bell as been. Do you love him, hate him, nothing him, or anything in between? What drew you to him? His preaching? His books? His tours? Or something else? What were your concerns with him? Bell has been really influential so I'm just curious how far that stretched and what it was exactly. Even for those who were really critical of him, that so many people use him as a reference point means that he was influential (whether you like it or not). So, anyways ... what do you think?????&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/20/rob-bell-parting-epistle-mars-hill_n_1160409.html"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to read his final sermon. But you should really go find the podcast and hear it live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(By the way, I say it's his "last" sermon because no one can just give it up like that. Who we kiddin'. Especially when you're that good at talking in public. Say what you want about his theology but he is a good talker.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6537610412914947208?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6537610412914947208/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6537610412914947208&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6537610412914947208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6537610412914947208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2011/12/rob-bells-last-sermon.html' title='rob bell&apos;s &quot;last&quot; sermon'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-457699611628668937</id><published>2010-12-28T22:34:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2010-12-28T22:45:57.748-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Savage Xmas 2010</title><content type='html'>It's a new tradition - my yearly mix. I haven't been around on my own blog lately, partly because I am not really sure what blogging means for me right now. But I thought in the mean time it would fun to post this and see what anyone thinks. These don't necessarily have to be brand new songs in 2010, just songs that I felt kept reoccurring for me or that I kept going back to or became important for me at particular moments. But a lot of them are new. Enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;At the Beach&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Avett Brothers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;City with no Children&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Arcade Fire&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Take Everything&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Greg Laswell&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Evening Kitchen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Band of Horses&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;On the Table&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Pines&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Bakay&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Coltrane&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;O Holy Night&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike Crawford and His Secret Siblings&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Underdog&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spoon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Break of Burn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Mckenna&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;All the Earth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Redemption Church&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Compared to What&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Legend&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Angel Dance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robert Plant&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;The Woman at the Well&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike Crawford and His Secret Siblings&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sister Rosetta Goes before Us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robert Plant and Alison Krauss&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Sigh no More&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mumford and Sons&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Outfit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Drive-by Truckers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Smile, Smile, Smile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sam Billen and Josh Atkinson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Holy, Holy, Holy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sufjan Stevens&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Up on a Mountain&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Welcome Wagon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-457699611628668937?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/457699611628668937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=457699611628668937&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/457699611628668937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/457699611628668937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/12/savage-xmas-2010.html' title='Savage Xmas 2010'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6798136658026221483</id><published>2010-10-12T06:27:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-12T06:39:03.624-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dont' Tell</title><content type='html'>There's a story in the bible about the time when Jesus was on his way to heal the daughter of a man named Jairus.  He was on His way when another person, a woman who has been hemorrhaging for twelve years need some help.  While Jesus was helping this woman, the little girl died.  Of course, this was no big deal for Jesus.  He went over to Jairus' house and told the child to arise and she did.  Apparently to Jesus was only sleeping.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My question has to do with what Jesus does at the end of this story.  He tells them not to tell anyone about what happened.  It's likely that they did not listen to Him, although we can't be certain.  But by this time there was already a buzz in the air about Jesus and so they would have known that he had come to there house.  He couldn't do that quietly.  And I'm sure that everyone in Jairus' household had questions once they saw the little girl running around the next day.  So, we can be as certain as we can that the word spread about what Jesus did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here's my question.  What can we learn from this about how we go about bearing witness to the Kingdom of God?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6798136658026221483?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6798136658026221483/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6798136658026221483&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6798136658026221483'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6798136658026221483'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/10/dont-tell.html' title='Dont&apos; Tell'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2742345056102080365</id><published>2010-09-28T07:36:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-28T10:37:55.113-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A Week with Schmemann</title><content type='html'>Since I get to read Alexander Schmemann's &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=gF3Orr5FW2MC&amp;dq=alexander+schmemann+%22for+the+life+of+the+world%22+review&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=TuKhTL_3D4OmsQP1uf2-AQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CCoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"&gt;For the Life of the World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; for a class I am taking, I thought I'd share some of the goods.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"[Humans] understand all this instinctively if not rationally.  Centuries of secularism have failed to transform eating into something strictly utilitarian.  Food is still treated with reverence.  A meal is still a rite--the last 'natural sacrament' of family and friendship, of life that is more than 'eating' and 'drinking.'  To eat is still something more than to maintain bodily functions.  People may not understand what that 'something more' is, but they nonetheless desire to celebrate it.  They are still hungry and thirsty for sacramental life."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2742345056102080365?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2742345056102080365/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2742345056102080365&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2742345056102080365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2742345056102080365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/09/week-with-schmemann.html' title='A Week with Schmemann'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8216013327933089552</id><published>2010-09-22T21:28:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-22T21:30:10.930-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Oh, boy ...</title><content type='html'>I know Hauerwas says that "best" and "worst" are not theological categories but can we make an exception!?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/iJya7tV2Wbc?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/iJya7tV2Wbc?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8216013327933089552?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8216013327933089552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8216013327933089552&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8216013327933089552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8216013327933089552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/09/oh-boy.html' title='Oh, boy ...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2413932213443445368</id><published>2010-09-06T17:28:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-06T17:33:53.688-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Now more than ever...</title><content type='html'>"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.  The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.  By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him.  In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.  Beloved, if God so love us, we also ought to love one another.  No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us." -1 John 4:7-12&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2413932213443445368?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2413932213443445368/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2413932213443445368&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2413932213443445368'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2413932213443445368'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/09/now-more-than-ever.html' title='Now more than ever...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1525286056030558873</id><published>2010-08-31T13:03:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-31T13:07:18.594-05:00</updated><title type='text'>von Balthsar ... yep</title><content type='html'>"What is specifically Christian about Christianity?  Never in the history of the Church have Christian thinkers thought it ultimately adequate to answer this question by pointing to a series of mysteries one is required to believe; instead, they have always aimed at a point of unity that would serve to provide a justification for the demand for faith.  They sought a logos (read "love") that, however particular it might be, nevertheless had the power to persuade, and indeed overwhelm."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mmmm ... that's good.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1525286056030558873?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1525286056030558873/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1525286056030558873&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1525286056030558873'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1525286056030558873'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/von-balthsar-yep.html' title='von Balthsar ... yep'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3101858913164128427</id><published>2010-08-25T20:35:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-25T20:39:49.965-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Ummm ... yeah, this is a good quote</title><content type='html'>"The fatal conceit for Judaism is to believe that the market governs the totality of our lives, when it in fact governs only a limited part of it, that which concerns the goods we think of as being subject to production and exchange.  There are things fundamental to being human that we do not produce; instead we receive from those who came before us and from God Himself.  And there are things that we may not exchange, however high the price." -- Jonathan Sacks&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3101858913164128427?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3101858913164128427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3101858913164128427&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3101858913164128427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3101858913164128427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/ummm-yeah-this-is-good-quote.html' title='Ummm ... yeah, this is a good quote'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1454362705556351520</id><published>2010-08-21T07:45:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-21T07:52:42.469-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jenson on the Church</title><content type='html'>I still not sure what I think about Robert Jenson's words about the church in the second volume of his systematic theology.  Any thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Christ is personally the second identity of God, and the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;totus Christus&lt;/span&gt; [total Christ, or whole Christ] is Christ with the church; therefore the church is not in the same way an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;opus ad extra&lt;/span&gt; [something extra as in something other than God] as is the creation, even when it [the creation] is perfected in God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does he put the church too close to the divine or is he giving a broader understanding of "Christ?"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1454362705556351520?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1454362705556351520/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1454362705556351520&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1454362705556351520'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1454362705556351520'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/jenson-on-church.html' title='Jenson on the Church'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3159145198013868118</id><published>2010-08-16T05:45:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-16T05:47:25.120-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Power</title><content type='html'>Thought this was &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425561952689390.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_lifestyle"&gt;an interesting piece&lt;/a&gt; on what happens when people come to a position of power.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3159145198013868118?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3159145198013868118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3159145198013868118&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3159145198013868118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3159145198013868118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/power.html' title='Power'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1942342917529101352</id><published>2010-08-07T10:22:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-08T20:06:19.503-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Good quote on language</title><content type='html'>Okay, so this quote kinda came out of left field for me.  I was listening to NPR's weekend edition today and they were interviewing Robyn, the Swedish Pop singer who had a few hits in the US back in the day.  She is still way popular in Europe.  Anyways, she was asked why she writes her songs in English and what she said blew me away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"When you know a language really well, it's almost like you stop questioning what you're really doing."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's likely that Robyn doesn't really know the full weight of what she said.  When one thinks about "language" and "question" in a theological or philosophical way, this quote gains some momentum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My first thoughts turned to the reality of Christian worship because that is where I think language and questioning are most valuable.  Christian worship poses &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; question par excellence in the form of a cross (crux probat omnia).  The cross is the language of Christian worship.  Most of the time we think that worship is about our words to God.  It's not.  It's about His words to us, although we do speak.  We speak in the form of response.  We speak when spoken to, in a sense.  The other side of this is to say that language without an end (telos) is mere rhetoric (words for words sake).  Christian worship is charged with language that is going somewhere.  It has an end and it speaks to it.  We speak the language of Christian worship (another language, a Kingdom language) so as to not forget what we really doing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1942342917529101352?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1942342917529101352/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1942342917529101352&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1942342917529101352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1942342917529101352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/good-quote-on-language.html' title='Good quote on language'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-356679589425228906</id><published>2010-08-06T07:10:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-08-06T07:21:43.540-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hello, Facebook?  This is Blogger</title><content type='html'>So I figured out how to link my blog to my Facebook page.  Please, hold your applause.  It's yet to be determined if this means anything.  I have been discouraged as of late to do any kind of blogging mostly because blogging is fun when people read it and write comments.  I've hear theories on how to increase you blogs traffic but to be honest the suggestions sound exhausting.  Basically what it comes down to is that I don't blog frequently enough on my own blog, nor do I get my name out there enough on other blogs so that people can track the link back to my site.  I told you--exhausting.  Blogging is curious animal.  I supposed in the end the reason I still blog is because I hope the people who read it find something helpful in it.  I suppose that might be why a lot of other people do it as well.  At the very least it can be a good discipline to help spread the word on a good thought or raise awareness on this we need to be thinking about.  Sometimes you do it for no other reason than that you are hoping somebody is listening.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-356679589425228906?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/356679589425228906/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=356679589425228906&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/356679589425228906'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/356679589425228906'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/08/hello-facebook-this-is-blogger.html' title='Hello, Facebook?  This is Blogger'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6290904464627120540</id><published>2010-06-15T20:51:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-06-15T20:53:31.072-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Annie Dillard</title><content type='html'>"Why are we reading if not in hopes that the writer will magnify and dramatize our days, will illuminate and inspire us with wisdom, courage, and the possibility of meaningfulness, and will press upon our minds the deepest mysteries, so we may feel again their majesty and power?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yep.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6290904464627120540?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6290904464627120540/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6290904464627120540&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6290904464627120540'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6290904464627120540'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/06/annie-dillard.html' title='Annie Dillard'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1033982796840610577</id><published>2010-05-06T13:55:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-06T14:10:55.510-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Spiritual Formation : Identity : Vocation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://inrebasworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/image002.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 119px; height: 176px;" src="http://inrebasworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/image002.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This summer my church is going to be reading Robert Benson's new book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Echo-Within-Finding-Your-Calling/dp/1400074347"&gt;The Echo Within&lt;/a&gt;.  We'll be spending a few weeks on vocation and identity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm wondering what books have been influential for people on this topic?  I'm talking about the kind of books that expose you, undo you, take you a part and show you who you really are, and then show you another path to walk.  Books that are not theologically formational (I suppose in the proper sense) but formational in more of a personal way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One book that I want to spend some time with here real soon is Parker Palmer, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Let-Your-Life-Speak-Listening/dp/0787947350/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1273172340&amp;amp;sr=1-1-spell"&gt;Let Your Life Speak&lt;/a&gt;.  Another book I read a while back that I really loved was Frederick Buechner, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Journey-Memoir-Early-Days/dp/0060611839"&gt;The Sacred Journey&lt;/a&gt;.  I think &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gilead-Novel-Marilynne-Robinson/dp/031242440X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1273172732&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Gilead&lt;/a&gt; by Marilynne Robinson might be one of those for me as well.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1033982796840610577?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1033982796840610577/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1033982796840610577&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1033982796840610577'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1033982796840610577'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/05/spiritual-formation-identity-vocation.html' title='Spiritual Formation : Identity : Vocation'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-700041345926448209</id><published>2010-05-02T17:50:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-03T20:15:41.077-05:00</updated><title type='text'>These are a few of my favorite things...</title><content type='html'>I thought I might jot down a few of my favorite things to do in KC ... a work in progress (and in no particular order).  I should clarify, though, that I am no expert of all things KC.  I have only lived here for about five years so my knowledge of the town is relative to that.  And I don't make it a priority to "experience" everything.  So, there's my disclaimer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;McCoy's Public House and Brew.&lt;/span&gt;  McCoy's is iconic for me.  It was one of the first places I latched on to when we moved to KC in 2005.  I enjoy everything about this place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Blackdog Coffeehouse.&lt;/span&gt;  I'm actually in Blackdog as I write this.  I don't really know what it is about this place but I love it.  The coffee is good and inexpensive.  There is almost always space to sit.  Free internet.  There's a good variety of people filtering in and out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Kansas City Mafia History.&lt;/span&gt;  Okay this is a little bit of a different "favorite thing."  Anybody can read about this, but I mention it here because it was here where I was first exposed and drawn into it.  I remember being at work and opening the newspaper on the anniversary of the Union Station Massacre.  I was in!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Loose Park.&lt;/span&gt;  I've walked, read, played ultimate Frisbee, and even almost witnessed a mugging all at this park (we got to lady only seconds after her muggers escaped).  But don't let the mugging fool you, it's a great place.  It's a big park that let's you forget for a while that you're in the city.  There's a play ground, a rose garden, a pond (with ducks) and even some nature tours.  And there's enough space to lay a blanket on the ground far enough away from people where you can find some solitude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art.&lt;/span&gt;  I can't say that I go here a lot nor that I have an extensive knowledge of art.  Most of the time I am simply happy that this is here in KC for me to visit whenever I want.  I find freedom in knowing that I could escape for a while to a place like this even if I don't do it a lot.  However, I have visited it a number of times and love the environment and what it does to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Rainy Day Books.&lt;/span&gt;  I mostly like this book store because they do these author events where we have been able to hear people like Anne Lamott and Frank McCourt.  I really enjoy these.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Half Price Books.&lt;/span&gt;  When it comes to book stores I always begin here.  They always have something I want, not that I necessarily buy it.  And they have pretty good deals to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"&gt;Kansas Skies&lt;/span&gt;.  One of the things we noticed about life in Kansas is that the skies are beautiful!  I can't say they compare to some of the sights I grew up with living in California (ocean sunsets still take the cake).  But Kansas skies are right up there.  There is something about the way the clouds move and take shape.  And the colors!  The way the green lights up as the sun reflects on the clouds and illuminates everything.  It's awesome!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-700041345926448209?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/700041345926448209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=700041345926448209&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/700041345926448209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/700041345926448209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/05/these-are-few-of-my-favorite-things.html' title='These are a few of my favorite things...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5638883196197246634</id><published>2010-05-01T07:14:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-01T07:15:51.914-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Romans Resources</title><content type='html'>Okay ... I'm in the middle of read through Romans with my community group and I am wondering about resources.  I'm looking for anything and everything--Books, articles, audio lectures and sermons, etc.  I'm particularly interested in the audio stuff.  Is there anything out there?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5638883196197246634?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5638883196197246634/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5638883196197246634&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5638883196197246634'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5638883196197246634'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/05/romans-resources.html' title='Romans Resources'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6179822789353769011</id><published>2010-04-29T07:58:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-03T10:24:35.717-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Marilynne Robinson</title><content type='html'>Since Marilynne Robinson is coming to KC here real soon, I thought I would post the very creative and moving opening paragraph of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Gilead&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I told you last night that I might be gone sometime, and you said, Where, and I said, To be with the Good Lord, and you said, Why, and I said, Because I'm old, and you said, I don't think you're old.  And you put your hand in my hand and you said, You aren't very old, as if that settled it.  I told you you might have a very different life from mine, and form the life you've had with me, and that would be a wonderful thing, there are many ways to live a good life.  And you said, Mama already told me that.  And then you said, Don't laugh! because you thought I was laughing at you.  You reached up and put your fingers on my lips and gave me that look I never in my life saw on any other face besides your mother's.  It's a kind of furious pride, very passionate and stern.  I'm always a little surprised to find my eyebrows unsinged after I've suffered one of those looks.  I will miss them."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6179822789353769011?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6179822789353769011/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6179822789353769011&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6179822789353769011'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6179822789353769011'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/marilynne-robison.html' title='Marilynne Robinson'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6554909679234553916</id><published>2010-04-28T07:14:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-28T07:17:09.293-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Parker Palmer</title><content type='html'>"In the tradition of pilgrimage, those hardships are seen not as accidental but as integral to the journey itself.  Treacherous terrain, bad weather, taking a fall, getting lost -- challenges of that sort, largely beyond our control can strip the ego of the illusion that it is in charge and make space for true self to emerge.  If that happens, the pilgrim has a better change to find the scared center he or she seeks.  Disabused of our illusions by much travel and travail, we awaken one day to find that the sacred center is here and now -- in every moment of the journey, everywhere in the world around us, and deep within our own hearts."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Parker Palmer, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Let Your Life Speak&lt;/span&gt;, 18.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6554909679234553916?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6554909679234553916/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6554909679234553916&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6554909679234553916'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6554909679234553916'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/parker-palmer.html' title='Parker Palmer'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4005921373500903158</id><published>2010-04-23T21:07:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-23T21:11:07.682-05:00</updated><title type='text'>For Sunday: Luke 10:38-42</title><content type='html'>Any thoughts on this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Now as they were traveling along, He entered a village; and a woman name Martha welcomed Him into her home.  She had a sister called Mary, who was seated at the Lord's feet listening to His word.  But Martha was distracted with all her preparation; and she came up to Him and said, "Lord do You not care that my sister has left me to do all the serving alone?  Then tell her to help me."  But the Lord answered and said to her, "Martha, Martha, you are worried and bothered about so many things; but only one thing is necessary, for Mary has chosen the good part, which shall not be taken away from her."&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:12pt;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4005921373500903158?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4005921373500903158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4005921373500903158&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4005921373500903158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4005921373500903158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/for-sunday-luke-1038-42.html' title='For Sunday: Luke 10:38-42'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3345122425675613532</id><published>2010-04-22T16:48:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-22T16:52:22.252-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Rohr on Wisdom</title><content type='html'>"Without exception, all of the wisdom traditions would insist that this wisdom is given and not taken, waited for and not demanded, having much more to do with long-term willingness than mere willfulness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Richard Rohr, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Naked Now: Learning to See as the Mystics See&lt;/span&gt; (page 63).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3345122425675613532?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3345122425675613532/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3345122425675613532&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3345122425675613532'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3345122425675613532'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/rohr-on-wisdom.html' title='Rohr on Wisdom'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3489034922712222440</id><published>2010-04-21T08:28:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T08:39:43.045-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Mumford and Sons</title><content type='html'>I discovered &lt;a href="http://www.mumfordandsons.com/"&gt;Mumford and Sons&lt;/a&gt; through &lt;a href="http://forsclavigera.blogspot.com/"&gt;Jamie Smith's blog&lt;/a&gt; ... So, thanks to him for posting about them!  I am really digging this band right now and I wanted to share just two of their songs for now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first one is called "Sigh No More."  Here are the lyrics ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Serve God love me and men&lt;br /&gt;This is not the end&lt;br /&gt;Live unbruised we are friends&lt;br /&gt;And I'm sorry&lt;br /&gt;I'm sorry&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sigh no more, no more&lt;br /&gt;One foot in sea, one on shore&lt;br /&gt;My heart was never pure&lt;br /&gt;you know me&lt;br /&gt;you know me&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And man is a giddy thing&lt;br /&gt;Oh man is a giddy thing&lt;br /&gt;Oh man is a giddy thing&lt;br /&gt;Oh man is a giddy thing&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love that will not betray you,&lt;br /&gt;dismay or enslave you,&lt;br /&gt;It will set you free&lt;br /&gt;Be more like the man&lt;br /&gt;you were made to be.&lt;br /&gt;There is a design,&lt;br /&gt;An alignment to cry,&lt;br /&gt;At my heart you see,&lt;br /&gt;The beauty of love&lt;br /&gt;as it was made to be&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It starts out slow and builds towards this lyrically beautiful climax, not that I don't also love the way it sounds!  There's not a really good video out there that I could find, but I think you'll get the point.  Enjoy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mImdcBhzzIg&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mImdcBhzzIg&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other song is called "Little Lion Man."  For some reason when I hear this song I think about my own son.  Here are the lyrics ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Weep for yourself, my man,&lt;br /&gt;you'll never be what is in your heart&lt;br /&gt;weep little lion man,&lt;br /&gt;you're not as brave as you were at the start&lt;br /&gt;rate yourself and rake yourself,&lt;br /&gt;take all the courage you have left&lt;br /&gt;wasted on fixing all the problems&lt;br /&gt;that you made in your own head&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but it was not your fault but mine&lt;br /&gt;and it was your heart on the line&lt;br /&gt;I really fucked it up this time&lt;br /&gt;didn't I, my dear?&lt;br /&gt;didn't I, my...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;tremble for yourself, my man,&lt;br /&gt;you know that you have seen this all before&lt;br /&gt;tremble little lion man,&lt;br /&gt;you'll never settle for any of your scores&lt;br /&gt;your grace is wasted in your face,&lt;br /&gt;your boldness stands alone among the wreck&lt;br /&gt;learn from your mother or else spend your days biting your own neck&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the official video.  Note ... if you read the lyrics you know that there's one word in there you might not want your kids to hear so make sure they aren't in the room when you listen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lLJf9qJHR3E&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lLJf9qJHR3E&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="640"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3489034922712222440?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3489034922712222440/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3489034922712222440&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3489034922712222440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3489034922712222440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/mumford-and-sons.html' title='Mumford and Sons'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6846517710050975871</id><published>2010-04-21T08:10:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-21T08:23:00.706-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kathleen Norris, Metaphor, and the Book of Revelation</title><content type='html'>I recently read this in Kathleen Norris's book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Cloister-Walk-Kathleen-Norris/dp/1573225843"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Cloister Walk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and absolutely loved it.  The quote comes at the end of a chapter where she has been reflecting on the time when St. John's (the Abbey at which she is an oblate) read John's Apocalypse straight through one morning.  She found that reading it &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lectio&lt;/span&gt; style made the vision and the metaphors come alive.  Insightfully she notes that "the images of apocalypse are meant to make us uncomfortable" (213), that it takes us "beyond the bounds of language and custom" (214).  But it's what she says at the end the grabs my gut, heart, and head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Dragons within, dragons without.  Evil so pervasive that only the poetry of apocalypse can imagine its defeat.  And to do that it takes us to the limits of metaphor, of human sense, the limits of imagining and understanding.  It pushes us against all our boundaries and suggest that the end of our control--our ideologies our plans, our competence, our expertise, our professionalism, our power--is the beginning of God's reign.  It asks us to believe that only the good remains, at the end, and directs us toward carefully tending it here and now.  We will sing a new song.  Singing and praise will be all that remains.  As a poet, that's a vision, and I promise, I can live with."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6846517710050975871?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6846517710050975871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6846517710050975871&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6846517710050975871'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6846517710050975871'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/kathleen-norris-metaphor-and-book-of.html' title='Kathleen Norris, Metaphor, and the Book of Revelation'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6447187558681457342</id><published>2010-04-20T08:15:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-20T08:23:56.517-05:00</updated><title type='text'>N.T. Wright and friends at Wheaton</title><content type='html'>When I first heard that &lt;a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/Theology/theo_conf/schedule.html"&gt;a whole slew of theological brainiacs&lt;/a&gt; where going to be a part of a conference at Wheaton in April I soooo wanted to go.  Alas, the Lord works in mysterious ways and prevented me from attending a conference and instead granted me a gift in visiting family in California as we mourned and celebrated the death of a grandma.  Nevertheless, you could imagine how happy I was when I discovered that I could listen to many of the lectures online!  Thanks to those who made it possible for us to glean from the conference through &lt;a href="http://samson.wheaton.edu/wetn/lectures-theology10.htm"&gt;these audio recordings&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6447187558681457342?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6447187558681457342/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6447187558681457342&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6447187558681457342'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6447187558681457342'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/nt-wright-and-friends-at-wheaton.html' title='N.T. 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Why does this bother people?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-9089482910799304620?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/9089482910799304620/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=9089482910799304620&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9089482910799304620'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9089482910799304620'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/national-day-of-prayer.html' title='National Day of Prayer'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4883882617378986204</id><published>2010-04-15T20:25:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-15T20:30:11.847-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jennifer Knapp</title><content type='html'>It's hard for me to tell who knows about Jennifer Knapp or not.  If her "coming out" is flying more or less under the radar, it is only a matter of time.  However, given &lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/music/interviews/2010/jenniferknapp-apr10.html"&gt;her interview with Christianity Today&lt;/a&gt;, I am certain that word is out.  I wonder how people will react to her?  How did you react to this?  Did it shock you?  Or are you not surprised that more and more Christians are coming out about their sexuality (Ted Haggard and Ray Boltz)?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4883882617378986204?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4883882617378986204/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4883882617378986204&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4883882617378986204'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4883882617378986204'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/jennifer-knapp.html' title='Jennifer Knapp'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5127134331276623670</id><published>2010-04-10T13:34:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-10T13:38:36.032-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Sleep Talking Man</title><content type='html'>Have you ever heard of the blog called &lt;a href="http://sleeptalkinman.blogspot.com/"&gt;Sleep Talking Man&lt;/a&gt;?  No?  Well, here's what it is ... it's a blog about a man who ... get this .. .talks in his sleep!  No kidding.  It's pretty funny, go check it out.  I will say, though, that he can be rather "colorful," as they say.  So, if that offends you don't say I didn't warn you. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's how you can find this site.  (1) Click the link about called "Sleep Talking Man".  (2) Go to my sidebar and click the link "Sleep Talking Man."  (3) Open up a new web page and type in the words sleeptalkingman.blogspot.com.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5127134331276623670?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5127134331276623670/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5127134331276623670&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5127134331276623670'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5127134331276623670'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/sleep-talking-man.html' title='Sleep Talking Man'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5142910812610148955</id><published>2010-04-08T10:28:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-12T10:47:14.435-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Acedia &amp; Me</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;A couple of weeks ago I started reading Kathleen Norris’s new book &lt;i&gt;Acedia and Me&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;. My introduction to Norris was in college where I had to read &lt;i&gt;The Cloister Walk&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt; for class. I have to admit that I wasn’t that in to reading her stuff back then. Although I am certain that my disinterest had less to do with her than with me. &lt;i&gt;CW&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt; is a spiritual autobiography of sorts tracking, as she calls it, her “immersion into the liturgical world.” She makes her way through the early church fathers such as Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil the Great, and Gregory the Great. She talks about the “mystics” such as Hildegard of Bingen. She also spends time working through the Rule of Saint Benedict. &lt;i&gt;CW&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt; is a wonderful account of a Protestant becoming familiar with her own ancient tradition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In &lt;i&gt;Acedia and Me&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt; she tackles a particular subject found all through the Christian tradition. Acedia is a difficult thing to define. The short version definition is &lt;i&gt;lack of care&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;. She says, “the person afflicted with acedia refuses to care or is incapable of doing so.” She likens it to a kind of “spiritual morphine” that not only stifles our desire for God and one another but our desire to take care of our selves (3). Suddenly nothing seems worth it. Making the bed every day is pointless since you will just climb back in at night and ruin what you have done. Worse is the loss of desire to sleep at night and wake up the morning. Modern psychology has often confused laziness and sloth and even depression with Acedia. Part of this has to do with the fact that Acedia as a word/concept went under the radar for so long. Perhaps what doctors and therapists have tried to treat with medication required a more “spiritual” form of direction. Norris always seems to go back to fixed-hour prayer and the Psalms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Norris is not trying to establish an either/or between Acedia and whatever we have discovered through medicine and psychology. Rather, she wants to recover the idea that part of our depression, laziness, sloth, boredom, etc is not so easily resolved with medication, or even a swift kick in the pants. There is a formational aspect to health and wholeness that Acedia names quite well. Of course, naming is not the name of the game. Naming our conditions helps, but there is also overcoming them, which requires an end to which we must go, a self that is possible. At this point Norris talks about being the &lt;i&gt;image of God&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acedia, however, is not to be confused with the dark night of the soul, as many call it. What troubled Saint John of the cross, and even Mother Teresa, cannot be labeled acedia. Lacking the felt presence of God is not Acedia, for often time we still long/desire for God and we maintain a sense of what we must do in this life in terms of caring for our others as well as ourselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, that’s the jist of what she is talking about. It’s a good and timely read, I think. Shifting gears a little, I do want to leave with a quote that seems apt to our present digital/virtual age. On the one hand, I couldn’t help but wonder how many us just simply don’t care; I mean really don’t care. On the other hand, in light of the recent political divide in the United States, could it be that many are fighting of the despair of acedia because they hope for something better? Although this quotes ends on a somber note, it’s very revealing. Anyways ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“When acedia has so thoroughly possessed us, making life seem so dull that only artificial stimulation can get our attention, it may be crazy to suggest that the ordinary rhythms of time, the passing of day and night, have something to teach us, or that there is a world to be revealed when the mall is closed, the electric power has failed, and it is too dark to see anything but shadows and stars. Cast back on our lonely, raw, and wounded selves, we may find the nobody is home.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5142910812610148955?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5142910812610148955/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5142910812610148955&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5142910812610148955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5142910812610148955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/acedia-me.html' title='Acedia &amp; Me'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1791608031998773232</id><published>2010-04-04T05:14:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-04T05:16:41.196-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Rising</title><content type='html'>Can't see nothin' in front of me&lt;br /&gt;Can't see nothin' coming up behind&lt;br /&gt;I  make my way through this darkness&lt;br /&gt;I can't feel nothing but this  chain that binds me&lt;br /&gt;Lost track of how far I've gone&lt;br /&gt;How far I've  gone, how high I've climbed&lt;br /&gt;On my back's a sixty pound stone&lt;br /&gt;On my  shoulder a half mile line&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the rising&lt;br /&gt;Com on  up, lay your hands in mine&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the rising&lt;br /&gt;Come on up  for the rising tonight&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Left the house this morning&lt;br /&gt;Bells  ringing filled the air&lt;br /&gt;Wearin' the cross of my calling&lt;br /&gt;On wheels  of fire I come rollin' down here&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the rising&lt;br /&gt;Come  on up, lay your hands in mine&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the rising&lt;br /&gt;Come on  up for the rising tonight&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spirits  above and behind me&lt;br /&gt;Faces gone, black eyes burnin' bright&lt;br /&gt;May  their precious blood forever bind me&lt;br /&gt;Lord as I stand before your  fiery light&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see you Mary in  the garden&lt;br /&gt;In the garden of a thousand sighs&lt;br /&gt;There's holy  pictures of our children&lt;br /&gt;Dancin' in a sky filled with light&lt;br /&gt;May I  feel your arms around me&lt;br /&gt;May I feel your blood mix with mine&lt;br /&gt;A  dream of life comes to me&lt;br /&gt;Like a catfish dancin' on the end of the  line&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sky of blackness and sorrow (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Sky of  love, sky of tears (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Sky of glory and sadness (a  dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Sky of mercy, sky of fear (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Sky of  memory and shadow (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Your burnin' wind fills my arms  tonight&lt;br /&gt;Sky of longing and emptiness (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;Sky of  fullness, sky of blessed life (a dream of life)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for  the rising&lt;br /&gt;Come on up, lay your hands in mine&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the  rising&lt;br /&gt;Come on up for the rising tonight&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Bruce Springsteen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1791608031998773232?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1791608031998773232/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1791608031998773232&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1791608031998773232'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1791608031998773232'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/04/rising.html' title='The Rising'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1343854442682430934</id><published>2010-04-04T05:10:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-04T05:11:25.070-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Easter</title><content type='html'>And then there was something...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1343854442682430934?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1343854442682430934/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1343854442682430934&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2124132485171257287</id><published>2010-04-02T14:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-02T14:45:10.104-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Good Friday</title><content type='html'>And then there was nothing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2124132485171257287?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2124132485171257287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2124132485171257287&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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And he said to the vineyard-keeper, "Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any.  Cut it down!  Why does it even use up the ground?"  And he answered and said to him, "Let it alone, sir, for this year too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not cut it down."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-9068758020551054257?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/9068758020551054257/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=9068758020551054257&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9068758020551054257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9068758020551054257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/03/fruit.html' title='Fruit'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4734600026444399245</id><published>2010-01-16T09:30:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-16T09:42:13.933-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Richard Hays</title><content type='html'>I recently came across an &lt;a href="http://hesedweemet.wordpress.com/2010/01/08/my-interview-w-richard-b-hays-of-duke-university/"&gt;interview&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href="http://www.divinity.duke.edu/portal_memberdata/rhays"&gt;Richard Hays&lt;/a&gt; where he was asked this question: "What are some of the best places in your view to study the New Testament today?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His response was perfect. "First of all, the NT is best studied in a community of prayer, worship, and service, where it is taken not merely as a museum piece but as a living word that calls us to account."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, he understood what the question implied and went on to list several top notch university and doctoral programs.  Nevertheless, he understands that "the academy" exits to serve the church.  For a good conversation on this, read &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Desiring-Kingdom-Worldview-Formation-Liturgies/dp/0801035775"&gt;James K. A. Smith's Desiring the Kingdom&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4734600026444399245?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4734600026444399245/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4734600026444399245&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4734600026444399245'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4734600026444399245'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/01/richard-hays.html' title='Richard Hays'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4046721222335398200</id><published>2010-01-10T21:15:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T21:16:18.400-06:00</updated><title type='text'>B.J. Thomas</title><content type='html'>He get's it right ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Let there be peace on earth&lt;br /&gt;and let it begin with me.&lt;br /&gt;Let there be peace on earth&lt;br /&gt;The peace that was meant to be."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4046721222335398200?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4046721222335398200/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4046721222335398200&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4046721222335398200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4046721222335398200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/01/bj-thomas.html' title='B.J. Thomas'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8426016345259738369</id><published>2010-01-10T05:29:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2010-01-10T05:36:19.924-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Music</title><content type='html'>Here are three songs that have been stuck in my head for awhile now ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GJC--HZ0tmo&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GJC--HZ0tmo&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKd06s1LNik"&gt;Fake Plastic Trees&lt;/a&gt; by Radiohead&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/gN2zcLBr_VM&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/gN2zcLBr_VM&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8426016345259738369?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8426016345259738369/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8426016345259738369&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8426016345259738369'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8426016345259738369'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2010/01/music.html' title='Music'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4678837523633565769</id><published>2009-12-28T08:28:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-28T08:37:02.961-06:00</updated><title type='text'>on vision ...</title><content type='html'>"&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Vision, then, originates not in seeing but in hearing a voice&lt;/span&gt;, the living voice of the good news sounding forth within, and from, the assembly.  Theologically, vision talk can be ventured only in the context of the church at prayer.  Vision is a product of collective listening for the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;viva vox evangelii&lt;/span&gt;.  That is why worship in word and sacrament isn't just one ministry among others (the work of the "worship team"); rather it's the ministry of ministries.  It fuels learning, witness (evangelism), servant life, and support (stewardship).  Vision isn't something &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;we have&lt;/span&gt;; it's a reality that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;has us&lt;/span&gt;.  It's cross-shaped.  Pragmatically, it has us by our constantly asking questions, by our establishing a climate of dialogue, an environment of call and response."  (John Berntsen, Cross-Shaped Leadership: On the Rough and Tumble of Parish Practice, 69).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A good critique for churches burdened with the quest for an original vision.  In the end, what are vision, mission, and purpose statements?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4678837523633565769?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4678837523633565769/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4678837523633565769&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4678837523633565769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4678837523633565769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/12/on-vision.html' title='on vision ...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2253085201154826765</id><published>2009-12-21T12:37:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-21T12:52:37.490-06:00</updated><title type='text'>here and there ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Scott Daniels quotes &lt;a href="http://drtscott.typepad.com/pastor_scotts_thoughts/2009/12/cs-lewis-thoughts-on-christmas.html"&gt;C.S. Lewis throwing down on Christmas&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://hopeofalltheworld.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-do-you-know-war-is-war.html"&gt;Stanley Hauerwas writes about Barak Obama's Nobel Peace Prize speech&lt;/a&gt;  over at the Ekklesia Project blog.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.sojo.net/2009/12/17/obamas-nobel-speech-violence-and-nonviolence-naivete-and-realism/"&gt;Brian McLaren also writes about Obama's speech&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1947590,00.html"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Time&lt;/a&gt; writes about &lt;a href="http://www.adventconspiracy.org/"&gt;the Advent Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2253085201154826765?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2253085201154826765/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2253085201154826765&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2253085201154826765'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2253085201154826765'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/12/here-and-there.html' title='here and there ...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5444811564393572376</id><published>2009-12-10T22:01:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-12-10T22:01:18.301-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Obama's Nobel Lecture</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I wanted to point out something from Obama’s Nobel Lecture.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Obama rightfully acknowledges that the president of the United States cannot follow the examples of Martin Luther King Jr. or Mahatma Gandhi.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I want to quote him at length on this one.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“We must begin by acknowledging the hard truth that we will not eradicate violent conflict in our lifetimes. There will be times when nations - acting individually or in concert - will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I make this statement mindful of what Martin Luther King said in this same ceremony years ago - "Violence never brings permanent peace. It solves no social problem: it merely creates new and more complicated ones." As someone who stands here as a direct consequence of Dr. King's life's work, I am living testimony to the moral force of non-violence. I know there is nothing weak -nothing passive - nothing naïve - in the creed and lives of Gandhi and King.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;But as a head of state sworn to protect and defend my nation, I cannot be guided by their examples alone. I face the world as it is, and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the American people. For make no mistake: evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force is sometimes necessary is not a call to cynicism - it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  Isn't it interesting that the President of the United States recognizes the distinction between working for peace and justice according to King and Gandhi as opposed to working for peace and justice according to the office of the President of the United States. I'm actually very thankful that this was acknowledged, and interested that it happened in the context of the Nobel Peace prize. This helps us see that there is no such thing as "peace" that means the same thing in every context. The people of God have a particular take on peace and how it comes about and Obama's speech helps make the distinction between what he is (and has to be about) as the President. It does still make me sad that Obama believes he cannot follow the lead of King and Gandhi on the worlds stage even though I agree with him that he never could while in office.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5444811564393572376?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5444811564393572376/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5444811564393572376&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5444811564393572376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5444811564393572376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/12/obamas-nobel-lecture.html' title='Obama&apos;s Nobel Lecture'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7043616459652321159</id><published>2009-11-21T20:39:00.007-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-22T14:56:25.907-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Souls in Transition</title><content type='html'>Christian Smith’s new book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Souls-Transition-Religious-Spiritual-Emerging/dp/0195371798"&gt;Souls in Transition: The Religious and Spiritual Lives of Emerging Adults&lt;/a&gt; looks really interesting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The goal of this book is to offer insight into a new developmental stage of life called “emerging adulthood.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;He argues that four things contributed to the rise of emerging adulthood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Dramatic growth in higher education.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Delay in marriage&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;“Changes in American and global economy that undermine stable, lifelong careers and replace them instead with careers with lower security, more frequent job changes, and an ongoing need for new training and education” (5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry, I couldn’t really condense that into a neat and tidy phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Increased economic support from parents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isn’t it interesting to think about how all of these influence one another.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why do parents offer support?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because of the demand for education mean their kids aren't working.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why is there an educational demand?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because long term, stable careers beginning at age eighteen hardly exist anymore.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, why postpone marriage?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Because family is unaffordable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it also cycles in other ways.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Smith says,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The features marking this stage of an intense identity exploration, instability, a focus on self, feeling in limbo or in transition or in between, and a sense of possibilities, opportunity, and unparalleled hope.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;These are, of course, accompanied … by large doses of transience, confusion, anxiety, self-obsession, melodrama, conflict, disappointment, and sometimes emotional devastation” (6).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn’t just a vicious cycle tyrannizing 18-23 year olds.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They are seeking out this new life stage.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;At this point Smith reminds us of something important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Life stages are not naturally given as immutable phases of existence … they are cultural constructions that interact with biology and material production, and are profoundly shaped by the social and institutional conditions that generate and sustain them” (6).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, “tweens” as a life stage didn’t really exist when I was a kid.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;At least not the way it does today.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I don’t remember having any heroes to whom I could look up to between childhood and being a teenager.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No one market clothes or music specifically to me between the ages of 7 to 13.  I do remember watching Boy Meets World as a highschooler, wondering why I was strangely fascinated.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Perhaps I was feeling the early rumblings of emerging adulthood in the form of me trying to make sense of my childhood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also remember watching Dawson’s Creek and wondering why I didn’t speak with such eloquence.  I just know I wanted to.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Now, I think it’s interesting that I loved watching Scrubs, a show in which the whole story is about a young doctor coming to terms with growing up, taking responsibility, getting over his abandonment issues, learning how to do things on his own, but still being cool and edgy and well versed in old TV sitcoms (because quoting shows/movies is characteristic of emerging adults).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, I am beginning to think that perhaps &lt;a href="http://www.hulu.com/arrested-development"&gt;Arrested Development’s&lt;/a&gt; death was a bit premature.&lt;span style=""&gt;  But then that's the question, is emerging adulthood an arrested development?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bring back the Bluths!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7043616459652321159?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7043616459652321159/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7043616459652321159&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7043616459652321159'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7043616459652321159'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/11/souls-in-transition.html' title='Souls in Transition'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5047292852264355946</id><published>2009-11-05T14:12:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-15T20:01:19.731-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Do Churches die well?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Intentional-Ministry-Not-So-Mega-Church-Missional/dp/0834124343"&gt;Dennis Bickers&lt;/a&gt; says, "Throughout the book we will see various reasons why smaller churches resist change, but we might as well admit now that transformation will not occur in some churches that are near the end of their ministries.  Perhaps the kindest thing that could be done for these churches is to honor their former ministries and allow them to die their natural deaths."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Has anyone actually experienced or heard of a church that saw the writing on the wall and died their natural death?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've heard quips through the years about how none of the Church gatherings talked about in the New Testament exist today.  And of course, we know that every Church gathering is not guaranteed lasting existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only stories I have ever heard of are ones about new Churches gatherings and how they are going to change the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to hear about the opposite end of the spectrum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For some reason I think it matters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps needless to say, Bickers words seem crass.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5047292852264355946?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5047292852264355946/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5047292852264355946&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5047292852264355946'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5047292852264355946'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/11/do-churches-die-well.html' title='Do Churches die well?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6972083480010691921</id><published>2009-10-31T08:06:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-31T08:08:30.137-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Lycanthropy</title><content type='html'>This mornings word-of-the-day that I get through my email is lycanthropy.  It means, "a delusion that one has become a wolf."  Do many people suffer from this?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6972083480010691921?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6972083480010691921/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6972083480010691921&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6972083480010691921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6972083480010691921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/10/lycanthropy.html' title='Lycanthropy'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4089397922160014287</id><published>2009-10-23T15:34:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-27T09:11:27.399-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What does this even mean?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-uvVFUMIjKrhXM:http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/h1n1_05_06/h29_18790047.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 149px; height: 93px;" src="http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-uvVFUMIjKrhXM:http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/h1n1_05_06/h29_18790047.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I received an email today with some helpful suggestions on how churches can take precaution in light of the H1N1 flu, which is apparently now an official pandemic. Many of the suggestions were kind of helpful, but I am not sure about the last suggestion. Here it is...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Limit church services and other gatherings only if advised by public health officials, but then cooperate as fully as possible as responsible citizens."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does this even mean?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flu pandemics do indeed raise interesting questions for churches to ask. Should we have purell stations for people to pass through as they go to table? Should we empty and refill the baptismal for every person?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm kinda of poking fun at this. But also not. I wonder how churches lived life together in the 1980s when HIV/AIDS hid the scene?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mostly I lament that these are things we have to even think about.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4089397922160014287?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4089397922160014287/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4089397922160014287&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4089397922160014287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4089397922160014287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-does-this-even-mean.html' title='What does this even mean?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6996191360973914985</id><published>2009-10-10T08:39:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-10T16:55:22.002-05:00</updated><title type='text'>"If I had been righteous myself, perhaps there would have been no criminal standing before me."</title><content type='html'>I read this a couple days ago and was really moved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Remember particularly that you cannot be a judge of any one.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For no one can judge a criminal until he recognizes that he is just such a&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;criminal as the man standing before him, and that he perhaps is more than all men to blame for that crime.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;When he understands that, he will be able to be a judge.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Though that sounds absurd, it is true.&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;If I had been righteous myself, perhaps there would have been no criminal standing before me&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;If you can take upon yourself the crime of the criminal your heart is judging, take it at once, suffer for him yourself, and let him go without reproach.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And even if the law itself makes you his judge, act in the same spirit so far as possible, for he will go away and condemn himself more bitterly than you have done.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If, after your kiss, he goes away untouched, mocking at you, do not let that be a stumbling-block to you.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It shows his time has not yet come, but it will come in due course.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And if it come not, no matter; if not he, then another in his place will understand an suffer, and judge and condemn himself, and the truth will be fulfilled.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Believe that, believe it without doubt; for in that lies all the hope and faith of the saints.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(Fyodor Dostoyevsky, &lt;i&gt;The Brothers Karamasov&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, 295ff). &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6996191360973914985?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6996191360973914985/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6996191360973914985&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6996191360973914985'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6996191360973914985'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/10/dostoyevsky.html' title='&quot;If I had been righteous myself, perhaps there would have been no criminal standing before me.&quot;'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4383449177035861877</id><published>2009-09-13T16:12:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-13T16:28:15.707-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jurgen Moltmann</title><content type='html'>I had the opportunity last week to take a trip up to Chicago with some friends to hear Jurgen Moltmann speak.  I had such a good time hearing one of the most significant theologians to come around in the last 40 years.  In a fun moment during the interview Moltmann was subject to a lightning round in which a number of names were mentioned to which he was supposed to give a quick comment.  I was able to get most of what he said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;John Paul II - He was a good Pope.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wolfhart Panneberg - Dear friend and opponent.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dietrich Bonhoeffer - Died too early.&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Alfred North Whitehead - Complicated to read.&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jacques Derrida - Postmodernity is just another form of modernity.  We have universal dangers that we can meet only united.  We cannot split up our narratives and be okay with it.  We live under teh threat of extinction (terroism, atomic bombs).  I don't see why we have to give up universals.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stanley Hauerwas - The New Testament does not speak about a peaceable kingdom but about a peacemaking kingdom.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Eberhard Jungel - He is good friend now.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Augustine - Ask his wife about him.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sigmund Freud - (A long period of silence) ... There was a colleague of mine who said you can understand him only if you know Austrians.  (apparently Viennen soldiers are all about sex).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Karl Marx - (He likes the early Marx, the one influence by romantic philosophy and ideas about the natural organization of human beings and nature.  Thinks the Communist Manifesto is a great 19th century document).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nicholas Cuso - (He said he must have missed class the day they talked about Cuso).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Miroslav Volf - He is a dear friend and gifted theologian.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pelagius - He is the saint of American Christians.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4383449177035861877?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4383449177035861877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4383449177035861877&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4383449177035861877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4383449177035861877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/09/jurgen-moltmann.html' title='Jurgen Moltmann'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5501829728103742948</id><published>2009-08-13T07:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-08-13T07:51:00.955-05:00</updated><title type='text'>"Deserve" as a theological term ... good or bad?</title><content type='html'>I still plan on finishing my little study through the book of Revelation.  The birth of our first kid has graciously relieved me from some of the things I have been doing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But for now … Okay, so I’m sitting right now in a coffee shop in KC.  The only people around are these three guys at table about ten feet from me.  They are Christians.  Naturally I have been trying to listen to what they have been saying because I am nosy and curious.  In some ways I want to try and maintain my anonymity that I am a Christians because I am curious how other Christians “act” in public.  Kinda weird, huh?  Maybe a little underhanded.  Anyways.  That’s what I am doing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At one point in the conversation this guy, who has clearly been dominating the conversation, says something to the effect of “we don’t deserve heaven.”  What I want to do is officially open up a conversation about the theological significance of the word “deserve” when it comes to salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over the past few months I have heard a number of people use this word and I am wondering if it is the best word to use, or if it is even helpful.  Do we “deserve” heaven?  Do we “deserve” God’s grace?  Do we “deserve” hell?  My first thought is that “deserve” is a good word if your thoughts on the atonement include the notion that God has to punish Sin. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The conversation is officially opened.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5501829728103742948?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5501829728103742948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5501829728103742948&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5501829728103742948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5501829728103742948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/08/deserve-as-theological-term-good-or-bad.html' title='&quot;Deserve&quot; as a theological term ... good or bad?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3848950943053327091</id><published>2009-07-24T16:02:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-24T17:02:20.410-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Contemplation</title><content type='html'>I've been working my way through Thomas Merton’s Contemplative Prayer.  I’m nearly finished and hope to post a few reflections on my reading in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People are receiving the Christian understanding of prayer as “contemplation” in a number of ways.  There are some like Concerned Nazarenes and Lighthouse Trails that think it has absolutely no place in the future of the people of God.  Others from a variety of traditions think otherwise--Thomas Merton, Richard Rohr, Robert Benson, Richard Foster, etc. (at least those are some of my favorite contemporaries).  There is of course the whole mystic tradition in Christianity--Evagrius Ponticus, Benedict, John of the Cross, Thomas a Kempis, and Brother Lawrence, to name a few. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am discouraged by those who cannot see the value of this part of the Christian tradition.  I hope someday that they will change there minds.  I have less contact with the people involved with Lighthouse Trails than with Concerned Nazarenes.  I have deep roots and ties with the Church of the Nazarene and am saddened by the apparent naivety of what they have to say, especially when it seems that the contemplative tradition sounds so much like what Nazarenes and Wesleyans have said about holiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a couple of quotes from Thomas Merton that I think are really really good.  He emphasizes grace as that which transforms us, something that holiness folk have always talked about but seldom really practiced, save for a few.  We talk a lot about receiving the grace of God in such a way that love takes control of our lives in a way that it never had before.  And we say that only God can do this.  But it seems that we really still try and do this by abiding by a particular form of Christian spirituality that “we” have deemed appropriate.  Thus, holiness is about a certain kind of Christianity.  Thus, it is at this point where Christians battle over which theology is better than the other rather than conversing about how different theologies can help us pray.  We might be surprised to discover that different theological reflections can be in service to one another as they help us practice silence and stillness so that we might encounter God and live lives of love. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Merton suggest that emptiness from all “forms”, all religious “schemes”, all of our “ways” is the goal.  True emptiness is a stillness from our efforts to attain stilllness/emptiness.  The goal of prayer for the Christian is total emptiness of all our ways so that we can truly encounter God and His way.  The practice of prayer is a patient waiting.  It is learning true stillness, true silence, true darkness.  It is releasing our selves from our own self-deceptions, which is always a terrifying place to be.  It is a place where we have let our guard down, where we have said, “it cannot be my way,” where we are truly vulnerable.  But it is here where we are always truly able to have faith.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But enough of my take.  Here’s Merton.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;"The contemplative way is, in fact, not a way.  Christ alone is the way, and he is invisible.  The 'desert' of contemplation is simply a metaphor to explain the state of emptiness which we experience when we have left all way, forgotten ourselves and taken the invisible Christ as our way."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“In other words, the true contemplative is not the one who prepares his mind for a particular message that he wants or expects to hear, but who remains empty because he knows that he can never expect or anticipate the word that will transform his darkness into light.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“An emptiness that is deliberately cultivated, for the sake of fulfilling a personal spiritual ambition, is not empty at all: it is full of itself.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;This next quote seems to be a possible point of connection between those holiness folk who fear “contemplation” and those who don’t. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The character of emptiness, at least, for a Christian contemplative, is pure love, pure freedom.  Love that is free of everything, not determined by any thing, or held down by any special relationship.  It is love for love’s sake.  It is a sharing, through the Holy Spirit, in the infinite charity of God.  And so when Jesus told his disciples to love, he told them to love as universally as the Father who sends his rain alike on the just and the unjust.  ‘Be ye perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect.’  This purity, freedom and indeterminateness of love is the very essence of Christianity, it is to this above all that monastic prayer aspires.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3848950943053327091?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3848950943053327091/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3848950943053327091&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3848950943053327091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3848950943053327091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/07/contemplation.html' title='Contemplation'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7956611705739053553</id><published>2009-07-14T06:31:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-14T06:36:20.701-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Wesley</title><content type='html'>“John Wesley recognized the ambiguities of Matthew 25:31-46 but did not allow them to deter him from responding to persons in need.  To those who wondered ‘what does it avail to feed or clothe men’s bodies, if they are just dropping into everlasting fire?’ Wesley responded, ‘whether they will finally be lost or saved, you are expressly commanded to fee the hungry, and clothe the naked.  If you can, and do not, whatever becomes of them, you shall go away into everlasting fire.’  He strongly resisted any attempts to narrow the scope of responsibility or to dull the intensity of the passage.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=3uCAshDkca8C&amp;amp;dq=making+room+pohl&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=bn&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=5mxcSuSXKY2CNLK_9b8C&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=4"&gt;Christine D. Pohl, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Making Room: Recovering Hospitality as a Christian Tradition&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7956611705739053553?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7956611705739053553/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7956611705739053553&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7956611705739053553'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7956611705739053553'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/07/wesley.html' title='Wesley'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5537549468164817867</id><published>2009-07-13T11:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-13T11:16:42.917-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Revelation 4</title><content type='html'>We continue with our ever so brief reflections on the book of Revelation with chapter 4.  Really, chapters 4 and 5 are the heart of the book, but we can only tackle one this week.  Rev 4:1 says,  “after these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven.”  When we last left off, Christ was standing at the door and knocking.  Now we see that as Christ is asking all of humanity to open their lives to Him, so is He opening His life to all humanity.  There is an interesting parallel, or overlap, at work here of God’s call to faithfulness and His initiative in working out His salvation on earth as it is in heaven.  The call to faithfulness is grace-ful.  God is at work—he is among his people (Rev 1:13)—strengthening and preparing them to follow Him.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The voice of the glorified Christ (“the sound of a trumpet speaking”) then calls John to “come up” and see “what must take place after these things.”  What John sees is a scene of the heavenly throne room.  Here is a scene of all creation rightly order around God’s rule and reign.  This is the “vantage point” for which John wants his readers to makes sense of everything that He is going to say (Koester, 75).  It is from this reality that they are to make sense of the world.  There is a lot going on in this scene.  Notice the rainbow around the throne draws our imaginations to the story of Noah.  God is intent on a peaceful creation.  We see that humans are not the center of everything.  In fact they are sort of ambiguously positioned in terms of the twenty-four elders, which seems to highlight their role as having dominion over creation as God’s image bearers.  But they are also positioned as one of the four creatures flying around the throne where they are given equal status with the rest of creation, as these four creatures are symbolic of creation as a whole.  There is also mention of the sea.  Throughout Scripture the sea is symbolic of chaos.  It is symbolic of the collective powers of evil at work in the world that contradict the rule and reign of God.  On the one hand we are encouraged by this because the sea is still.  God has calmed the waters (Mark 4:35-41).  God has overcome the power of evil.  God is sovereign over all things.  On the other hand we are a big discouraged because the sea is still present.  God has over come, but not rid the world of the potential of evil.  This is part of what is at work in this revelation.  We are going to see God’s subduing and final defeat of every force of evil at work in the world that contradicts His rule and reign.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perspective is central again.  Depending on whether or not persecution, accommodation, or complacency characterizes the situation of the seven churches (and we could also say our own) will determine whether or not this vision of the heavenly throne room is a good thing.  The one who walks with His people, amidst their life circumstances where persecution, complacency, and accommodation are possibilities, is the one at the center of it all.  John draws the imagination of His readers into the reality that from God’s perspective, all of creation is rightly ordered around and is going to finally be right ordered around His rule and reign.  The eschatological tension is clear here.  God is already sovereign, but there is still work to be done in finally ridding the world of evil and maybe even the potential of evil.  This is a vision of the fulfillment of Christ’s promise to the seven churches that those who conquer will sit with Him on his throne (Rev 3:21; Koester, 71).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is actually a question I am asking of Revelation.  What of the absence of the sea in Rev. 21:1?  Does this simply mean that evil as been finally overcome or that even the potential of evil is overcome?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One other thing John is doing when he writes this vision of the throne room is calling into question other such displays of praise of earthly rulers.  It was common for public appearances of the emperor to resemble the throne room, with the ruler sitting high on the throne accompanied by the praise of those seeking to rise up in social status heaping their praises.  John wants his hearer/readers to see that such popular displays of power are really a parody of the true rule and reign of God (Koester, 75).  Clearly, the nature of the churches participation in the social order is going to be of great importance throughout the rest of the book.  We have already seen this in the seven churches.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is important to let the book of Revelation stand on its own as a piece of literature.  Those in a hurry to discover “what must take place after these things,” as if the bible were a puzzle book of answers such that all we have to do is piece it together, will miss the significance of the vision of the heavenly throne room.  Of first importance for faithfulness is not insight into current events in terms of times and place and players, as we see in popular culture and theologies such as Left Behind.  Rather, the first thing we need is a vision of the reality of God rule and reign and the understanding that whatever is to unfold is based on the reality of God’s rule and reign.  Our first response to God in this world as his followers is not fear and condemnation of others, but worship and submission to a way of being in the world characteristic of Jesus, which leads us nicely into Chapter five where we learn that we are priest, which anticipates also another sustaining vision of the heavenly throne room in Rev 14:4, where we learn that are called to follow the lamb wherever He goes.  But I am getting way too ahead of myself.  I hope you are beginning to see at the very least how it all connects and overlaps and repeats for the sake of what is actually a very simply revelation in terms of its message.  But  we’ll get to that also.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5537549468164817867?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5537549468164817867/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5537549468164817867&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5537549468164817867'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5537549468164817867'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/07/revelation-4.html' title='Revelation 4'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4934529955558031519</id><published>2009-07-07T09:05:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-07T09:08:12.940-05:00</updated><title type='text'>One from Ol' Saint Johnny de la Crucis</title><content type='html'>"To come to the pleasure you have not&lt;br /&gt;you must go by a way in which you enjoy not.&lt;br /&gt;To come to the knowledge you have not&lt;br /&gt;you must go by a way in which you know not.&lt;br /&gt;To come to the possession you have not&lt;br /&gt;you mst go by a way in which you possess not.&lt;br /&gt;To come to be what you are not&lt;br /&gt;you must go by a way in which you are not."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(quoted in Richard Rohr, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Simplicity: The Art of Living&lt;/span&gt;, 14)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4934529955558031519?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4934529955558031519/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4934529955558031519&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4934529955558031519'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4934529955558031519'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/07/one-from-ol-saint-johnny-de-la-crucis.html' title='One from Ol&apos; Saint Johnny de la Crucis'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1679761071383694865</id><published>2009-07-06T10:19:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-06T10:25:56.121-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Revelation 1-3</title><content type='html'>For a couple of months now I have been thinking about a way to be a better student of the bible.  While a better discipline is being formed in me in terms of daily prayer (involves a lot of bible reading; the Psalms particularly), I have not yet found some kind of rhythm in which I can devote serious time to reading good biblical commentaries.  It occurred to me that I should make this a part of a blogging discipline in hopes that it becomes something of a help for my church, particularly, with whom I do most of reading, as well as those few who like to pop over to this blog from time to time. Therefore, I hope to offer some weekly thoughts, a chapter (or so) at a time on books of the bible that I am studying.  Since I took a class a little while ago on the book of Revelation I thought I would start there.  There is no way I will be able to exhaust this baby.  What I hope is that these posts are helpful for gaining insight into how this text moves and not necessarily what it says or means, although we certainly cannot avoid this.  We’re going to swing on some of major hinges of the book of Revelation for a while and see if we can’t make some sense of it.  For this post, I’d like to reflect on Revelation 1-3, with the masterful guidance of &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=rOb0fXM4fAUC&amp;dq=revelation+and+the+end+of+all+things&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=IBdSSo7eDZDClAfbu5m3BQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4"&gt;Craig Koester’s Revelation and the End of All Things&lt;/a&gt;.  And so, in the now immortal words (at least to me) of a brilliant new movie I watched this last weekend… &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mpLvUY8TUE"&gt;away we go&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We might imagine 1:1-8 as John’s voice-over offer some preliminary narration.  At 1:9-20 where the curtain first opens in the drama, John meets the glorified Christ.  At 2:1-3:22 are the messages to the seven churches.  Theses messages are addressed individually, but they are not meant to be private (56).  They were meant to be open letters, someone else mail, written to specific contexts but available for others who share a larger socio-politico-economic reality—the Roman Empire.  These messages deal with three overarching themes—assimilation, persecution, and complacency (57ff).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Perspective&lt;/span&gt; describes the major movement of this section.  The placement of 1:9-20 within the text is significant.  Before anything happens, John offers his readers a sustaining vision for what is to follow.  This is not the only sustaining vision, as we will see.  John is given a number of sustaining visions that guide the readers along the way as they encounter the vision.  The first thing we read about is not a future event but a present reality (54).  The glorified Christ who is to appear again one day is not absent from His people, the lampstands.  This is good news!  The glorified Christ is present among His people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The language John uses to describe the voice that he sees is drawn from the Old Testament.  He uses this language in such a way so as to remain in continuity with the ancient people of God, namely no idolatry.  With masterful prose, John articulates perhaps the most developed Trinitarian theology in the New Testament.  This one who is present among His people is none other than the creator, sustainer, and redeemer of the cosmos.  It is this one who is first and last, who touches John on the shoulder.  He is near!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The opening chapters in the book of Revelation set the stage for what is to follow.  It remains to be seen whether or not the glorified Christ present among His people and in the world is a good thing.  It depends on your perspective.  This is where the context offered by the messages to the seven churches is crucial for the text.  It provides the context in which to make sense of the presence of Christ and the vision that follows throughout the text.  Churches that lend themselves to complacency and/or assimilation with the culture might find the judgment of God rather disconcerting, to put it mildly, if they don’t change their ways.  Likewise, those who have been about the love and justice of God and are facing persecution of various kinds will find hope in the presence and judgment of Christ.  The major movement of this section challenges our perspective of the world.  It challenges us to ask: how do I see the world?  What’s the overarching framework in which I make sense of things?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, there’s the first reflection.  It feels very inadequate.  Much more could be said, but it is what it’s going to be.  But ask questions if you want.  Or disagree.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1679761071383694865?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1679761071383694865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1679761071383694865&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1679761071383694865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1679761071383694865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/07/revelation-1-3.html' title='Revelation 1-3'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7553923733305237509</id><published>2009-06-27T09:49:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-27T09:52:12.626-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Moltmann resources</title><content type='html'>I'm looking for some good stuff on Jurgen Moltmann, Particular &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Theology of Hope&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Crucified God&lt;/span&gt;, and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The Church in the Power of the Spirit&lt;/span&gt;.  I'm making my way through these this summer and need some help.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7553923733305237509?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7553923733305237509/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7553923733305237509&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7553923733305237509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7553923733305237509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/moltmann-resources.html' title='Moltmann resources'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7139349997259300429</id><published>2009-06-18T15:56:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-18T15:57:35.019-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Vonnegut</title><content type='html'>"The last thing I ever wanted was to be alive when the three most powerful people on the whole planet would be named Bush, Dick, and Colon."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7139349997259300429?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7139349997259300429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7139349997259300429&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7139349997259300429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7139349997259300429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/vonnegut.html' title='Vonnegut'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5612606819245365028</id><published>2009-06-13T08:41:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-13T08:43:54.443-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tolkien</title><content type='html'>Here is Thorin Oakenshield, King under the Mountain speaking to Bilbo Baggins of Bag-End Under-Hill.  Thorin has been fatally wounded and is speaking his last words to Bilbo.  They had a bit of a falling out earlier and are now making things right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“’No!’  said Thorin.  ‘There is more in you of good than you know, child of the kindly West.  Some courage and some wisdom, blended in measure.  If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.’”&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5612606819245365028?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5612606819245365028/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5612606819245365028&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5612606819245365028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5612606819245365028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/tolkien.html' title='Tolkien'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-207268033350198244</id><published>2009-06-09T10:04:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-09T10:14:55.658-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Property</title><content type='html'>Acts 2:42-47 says, "They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.  Awe came upon everyone, because many wonders and signs were being done by the apostles.  &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need.&lt;/span&gt;  Day by day, as they spent much time together in the temple, they broke bread at home and ate their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having the goodwill of all the people. And day by day the Lord added to their number those who were being saved."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cavanaugh say, "for much of the Catholic tradition on the subject of property, going back to Aquinas and beyond, the ownership of property is natural to human beings and allows them to develop their own capacities.  As Belloc says, property is thus essential to human freedom.  But he does not construe freedom negatively here.  The ownership of property is not about power, and the wide distribution of property is not about a great equilibrium of power.  Rather, property has an end, which is to serve the common good.  The universal destination of all materiel goods is in God.  As Aquinas says, we should regard property as a gift from God, a gift that is only valid if we use it for the benefit of others.  Thus Aquinas sanctions private ownership only insofar as it is put to its proper end, which is the good of all: 'Man ought to possess external things, not as his own, but as common, so that, to wit, he is ready to communicate them to others in their need.'  Absent such a view of the true end of property, freedom means being able to do whatever one wants with one's property, and property can thus become nothing more than a means of power over others."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-207268033350198244?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/207268033350198244/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=207268033350198244&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/207268033350198244'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/207268033350198244'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/property.html' title='Property'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8693374974071042156</id><published>2009-06-09T08:59:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-09T09:14:33.769-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Sacred Canopy of Consumption</title><content type='html'>"Where there are no objectively desirable ends, and the individual is told to choose his or her own ends, then choice itself becomes the only thing that is inherently good.  When there is a recession we are told to buy things to get the economy moving; &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;what&lt;/span&gt; we buy makes no difference.  All desires, good and bad, melt into the one overriding imperative to consume, and we all stand under the one sacred canopy of consumption for its own sake."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, as Cavanaugh argues, the American dream of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, i.e. freedom, is never a freedom &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;from&lt;/span&gt;, as many believe, but always still a freedom &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;for&lt;/span&gt;.  Without a clear understanding of one's &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;end&lt;/span&gt;, i.e. their version of the good life, one's good end can only found in the possibility of choice as such.  So, while one thinks one has been liberated, or set free, to live ones own life, one is really still a slave to choice.  Their is a market place of desires in which we are free to choose our own lives, but then this is based on a understanding of human nature as autonomous, being as such and not in relationship to the divine, i.e. YHWH/Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, as Bob Dylan said, "You're gonna have to serve somebody."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8693374974071042156?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8693374974071042156/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8693374974071042156&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8693374974071042156'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8693374974071042156'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/sacred-canopy-of-consumption.html' title='The Sacred Canopy of Consumption'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3398606395569266796</id><published>2009-06-08T21:50:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-08T21:56:41.195-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A New Katie Article</title><content type='html'>My lovely and very pregnant wife has &lt;a href="http://www.barefootministries.com/nphweb/html/cmol/articleDisplay.jsp?mediaId=2401129&amp;amp;nid=artt"&gt;a new article&lt;/a&gt; over and Credo Magazine ready for your perusal.  Check it out!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3398606395569266796?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3398606395569266796/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3398606395569266796&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3398606395569266796'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3398606395569266796'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-katie-article.html' title='A New Katie Article'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-655464849230632268</id><published>2009-05-29T18:31:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-29T18:33:29.852-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Cavanaugh on Consumerism</title><content type='html'>If the chapter is as good as his own summary then I am in for a treat … and a challenge to my entire existence!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“In chapter 2, I examine the dynamics of attachment and detachment in consumer culture.  Although consumerism is often equated with greed, which is an inordinate attachment to material things, I show that consumerism is, in fact, characterized by detachment from production, producers, and products.  Consumerism is a restless spirit that is never content with any particular material thing.  In this sense, consumerism has some affinities with Christian asceticism, which counsels a certain detachment from material things.  The difference is that, in consumerism, detachment continually moves us from one product to another, where in Christian life, asceticism is a means to a greater attachment to God and to other people.  We are consumers in the Eucharist, but in consuming the body of Christ we are transformed into the body of Christ, drawn into the divine life in communion with other people.  We consume in the Eucharist, but we are thereby consumed by God.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;William T. Cavanaugh, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Being Consumed: Economics and Christian Desire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-655464849230632268?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/655464849230632268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=655464849230632268&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/655464849230632268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/655464849230632268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/cavanaugh-on-consumerism.html' title='Cavanaugh on Consumerism'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7006228307577120123</id><published>2009-05-27T09:47:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-28T09:36:27.550-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Does Neuhaus contradict himself?</title><content type='html'>On the one hand he says, “There is no ‘model church’ in the sense that we might speak of a ‘model husband’ or a ‘model university.’  All churches are exemplary in part, none is exemplary in whole.  We are not considering the model church but models of the Church.  To be sure, there are some individuals and also ministers who ‘church hop’ from place to place in search of the spot where they can finally lay their burden down.  They complain about not feeling at home here or there, forgetting that homelessness is the normal sensation of a pilgrim people.  There movement from tent to tent in the wilderness obscures for them the fact that the whole people are in movement toward the Promised Land.  Of course the members of one tent may be more compatible, may be setting the pace and possessed of a surer sense of direction, and that is the tent where one might want to be.  But one can travel with any tent, with any denomination household, so long as it does not separate itself from the larger pilgrimage.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But on the other hands he says, "Increasingly it is recognized that the Church is composed of the churches.  When we speak of models, therefore, we do not suggest that there is one model church which others should emulate, but neither should we deny that one church may more comprehensively symbolize the Church than does another."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7006228307577120123?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7006228307577120123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7006228307577120123&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7006228307577120123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7006228307577120123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/another-from-neuhaus.html' title='Does Neuhaus contradict himself?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6983883485952777155</id><published>2009-05-25T15:03:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-25T15:05:07.299-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Another by Neuhaus</title><content type='html'>"Our relentless discontent should not be over the distance between ourselves and the first-century Church but over the distance between ourselves and the Kingdom of God, to which the church, then and now, is the witness."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6983883485952777155?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6983883485952777155/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6983883485952777155&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6983883485952777155'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6983883485952777155'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/another-by-neuhaus.html' title='Another by Neuhaus'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5922377408870818530</id><published>2009-05-23T07:30:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-23T07:53:39.805-05:00</updated><title type='text'>One by Neuhaus</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;"And so, because we do not pretend that the Church is the Kingdom of God, we offer no excuses for its not being the Kingdom of God.  There will be no satisfactory Church, no Church that can be embraced without ambiguity, until the world of which the Church is part is satisfactorily ordered in the consummation of God's rule.  In short, we cannot get it all together until God has gotten it all together in the establishment of the Messianic Age."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-Richard John Neuhaus, Freedom for Ministry&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5922377408870818530?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5922377408870818530/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5922377408870818530&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5922377408870818530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5922377408870818530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/one-by-neuhaus.html' title='One by Neuhaus'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8057961227961403102</id><published>2009-05-18T21:32:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-19T10:29:23.572-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Which came first the community or the Scripture?</title><content type='html'>I have finally come home, so to speak.  As far as a text is concerned, my journey into theological studies began with Stanley Hauerwas', &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Unleasing the Scripture: Freeing the Bible from Captivity to America.&lt;/span&gt;  With a title like that you are correct to assume the he is an ornery little b-word (choose your own b-word).  Incidently, ornery is a fun word.  I certainly can't say that my theological education began with this text because that would be in total contradiction the point Hauerwas is trying to make, which is that texts (oh, say, the bible, for example) don't exist as such.  They exist because there is a community prior to text that allow's such a text to have authority over them.  They have said that such a text serves as a guide, a rule (in the best sense of the word), that keeps them on the road and not in the ditch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus Hauerwas says, "Therefore we cannot ask how we ought to interpret the text because we assume that the text exist prior to such interpretive strategies.  We must acknowledge that interpretive strategies are are already at work in shaping our reading, and hence our conception of what a text is."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The interpretive strategy at work is a way of being in the world that is already embodied in the people of God.  Yes, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;strategy &lt;/span&gt;IS &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;a way of being&lt;/span&gt;.  The Scripture has authority in the sense that that way of being in the world that the Church affirms is captured in the form of a story about ...  yes, you guessed it ... about how to be in the world in a particular way as the people of God.  The discipline (discipleship) of being a follower of Jesus was already at work when the church discerned (and mind you this discernment occured over hundreds of years) which texts helped them maintain a continuity with the Jesus way.  You might say they discerned which texts helped them continue their discipline as followers of Jesus.  The need for such an authority became more and more apparanet as the years went on and Christ did not return.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8057961227961403102?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8057961227961403102/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8057961227961403102&amp;isPopup=true' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8057961227961403102'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8057961227961403102'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/which-came-first-community-or-scripture.html' title='Which came first the community or the Scripture?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8440690781078622330</id><published>2009-05-12T12:49:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-12T12:54:04.744-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>The Gospel reading for today is Luke 8:1-15.  The last line of this passage of Scripture, “But as for that in the good soil, these are the ones who, when they hear the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;and bear fruit with patient endurance&lt;/span&gt; [my emphasis],” seemed to connect with something Jurgen Moltmann says in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Theology of Hope&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“All of this must inevitably mean that the man who thus hopes will never be able to reconcile himself with the laws and constraints of this earth, neither will the inevitability of death nor with the evil that constantly bears further evil.  The raising of Christ is not merely a consolation to him in a life that is full of distress and doomed to die, but it is also God’s contradiction of suffering and death, of humiliation and offence, and of the wickedness of evil.  Hope finds in Christ not only a consolation in suffering, but also the protest of the divine promise against suffering.  If Paul calls death the ‘last enemy’ (1 Cor. 15.26), then the opposite is also true: that the risen Christ, and with him the resurrection hope, must be declared to be the enemy of death and of a world that puts up with death.  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Faith takes up this contradiction and thus becomes itself a contradiction to the world of death.  That is why faith, wherever it develops into hope, causes not rest but unrest, not patience but impatience.  It does not calm the unquiet heart, but is itself this unquiet heart in man.  &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Those who hope in Christ can no longer put up with reality as it is, but begin to suffer under it, to contradict it”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; [my emphasis].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bearing fruit with patient endurance seems to have something to do with a life we call faithfulness, a life lived in contradiction to a world marked by violence.  To be faithful to Christ, to bear fruit (see John 15:1-10), is about not being satisfied with the world as is, nor with those of the world who have a good idea about where we should go and what we should do.  To have faith/be faithful is necessarily contradictory, thus necessarily of suffering, because those who contradict a world marked by violence appear to have been overcome by it.  The martyr’s cry in Revelation “how long?”  But, the Christian hope is about one who rose from the dead, whose life appeared to have been overcome by violence, where for a time it looked like violence won.  One who overcame in the end by exhausting violence in His body, by letting it do its worst, and then putting it out like tiny match flame.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8440690781078622330?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8440690781078622330/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8440690781078622330&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8440690781078622330'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8440690781078622330'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/05/gospel-reading-for-today-is-luke-81-15.html' title=''/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5049068383066178901</id><published>2009-04-13T06:34:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-13T06:38:09.759-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jonah or Jesus?</title><content type='html'>What is more unlikely to happen, being swallowed by a whale or rising from the dead?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5049068383066178901?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5049068383066178901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5049068383066178901&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5049068383066178901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5049068383066178901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/04/jonah-or-jesus.html' title='Jonah or Jesus?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6038337501417899022</id><published>2009-03-31T09:03:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-31T09:05:11.069-05:00</updated><title type='text'>One from Rowan</title><content type='html'>"The times when we can be absolutely sure that we are wasting words are when we are reinforcing our reputation, defending or position at someone else's expense--looking for a standard of comparison, a currency in the market of virtue."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6038337501417899022?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6038337501417899022/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6038337501417899022&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6038337501417899022'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6038337501417899022'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/03/one-from-rowan.html' title='One from Rowan'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7850473964537942408</id><published>2009-02-17T12:00:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-17T12:45:24.941-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The Kid: Or, On Discovering One's Nose</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZsFpkkKXNI/AAAAAAAAADY/Vuu7oqauKqc/s1600-h/SCAN0001.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 298px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZsFpkkKXNI/AAAAAAAAADY/Vuu7oqauKqc/s400/SCAN0001.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5303839197907016914" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZsFFaJMX1I/AAAAAAAAADQ/haZOVRsZ5U4/s1600-h/SCAN0001.JPG"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7850473964537942408?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' 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xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZsFpkkKXNI/AAAAAAAAADY/Vuu7oqauKqc/s72-c/SCAN0001.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-53185341665845262</id><published>2009-02-12T17:07:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-12T17:09:42.311-06:00</updated><title type='text'>One from Epiphanius</title><content type='html'>"The acquisition of Christian books is necessary for those who can use them.  For the mere sight of these books renders us less inclined to sin, and incites us to believe more firmly in righteousness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Would somebody mind telling my wife this!  (love you, honey).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-53185341665845262?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/53185341665845262/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=53185341665845262&amp;isPopup=true' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/53185341665845262'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/53185341665845262'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/one-from-epiphanius.html' title='One from Epiphanius'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-58553441057526705</id><published>2009-02-12T09:19:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-12T09:46:03.926-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Dear Prudence</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IMk8GIOQHvY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IMk8GIOQHvY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The more I think about it, the more I think The Beatles nailed it.  And I like how the Across the Universe folk made it come alive in the scene, especially at the end when Joe Anderson (Max), somewhat naively, thinks that LBJ could actually call the whole thing off.  In such a hostile environment, it is worth calling a little exercise in sound judgment out to play. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This actually makes me think of Stephen Fowl's thoughts on "prudence," or &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;phronein&lt;/span&gt; (Greek).  This word appears thirteen times in Paul's writings, ten in Philippians alone.  It's central for what he has to say there.  Fowl reminds us that for Paul, "prudence" does not have a universal meaning.  Prudence is formed and exercised according to the whatever story one participates in through which they make sense of the world.  Prudence, our practical reasoning, is lived out by how we make sense of the world, according to a particular reason, or logic.  Thus, Paul links this to Christ, the logos.  As I think about this I find Max's thinking that LBJ might call the whole thing off rather ironic and very sad.  In hindsight, Max's expectation of reality is not what happened, and indeed what could never happen.  Perhaps the church's witness should be first about getting people to see what story they are a part of and how through them they make sense of the world.  Once they "see" that then maybe they will see differently when they come across the church who patterns their lives after Christ.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-58553441057526705?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/58553441057526705/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=58553441057526705&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/58553441057526705'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/58553441057526705'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/dear-prudence.html' title='Dear Prudence'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5645391374535404853</id><published>2009-02-11T08:01:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-11T08:06:46.471-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Abba Gelasius</title><content type='html'>It was said of Abba Gelasius that he had a leather Bible worth eighteen pieces of silver.  In fact it contained the whole of the Old and New Testaments.  He had put it in the church so that any of the brethren who wished, could read it. A strange brother came to see the old man and, seeing the Bible, wished to have it, and stole it as he was leaving.  The old man did not run after him to take it from him, although he knew what he was doing.  So the brother went to the city and tried to sell it, and finding a purchaser, he asked thirteen pieces of silver for it. The purchaser said to him, "Lend it to me, first, so that I may examine it, then I will give you a price." So he gave it to him.  Taking it, the purchaser brought it to Abba Gelasius for him to examine it and told him the price which the seller had set. The old man said to him, "Buy it, for it is beautiful and worth the price you tell me." This man, when he returned, said something quite different to the seller, and not what the old man had said to him.  "I have shown it to Abba Gelasius," he said, "and he replied that it was dear, and not worth the price you said."  Hearing this, he asked, "Didn't the old man say anything else?"  "No," he replied.  Then the seller said, "I do not want to sell it any more."  Filled with compunction, he went to find the old man, to do penance and ask him to take his book back. but he did not wish to make good his loss.  So the brother said to him, "If you do not take it back, I shall have no peace."  The old man answered, "If you won't have any peace, then I will take it back."  So the brother stayed there until his death, edified by the old man's way of life.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5645391374535404853?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5645391374535404853/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5645391374535404853&amp;isPopup=true' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5645391374535404853'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5645391374535404853'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/abba-gelasius.html' title='Abba Gelasius'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6783623112565643977</id><published>2009-02-09T19:28:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-09T19:38:05.156-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Peanut Butter</title><content type='html'>I blame my mother.  Or so they say I should (who's they again?).  Actually, I do blame my mother for my love of peanut butter.  She was hooked on Bit-O-Honey's when she was pregnant to me.  Now, you might ask, "what does peanut butter have to do with Bit-O-Honey?"  In fact, it has nothing to do with it other than the fact that I love honey and peanut butter goes good with honey.  Get it?  (Actually, the website says it could contain traces of peanut.  There you go.)  So, you must understand why I put everything aside when I discovered &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2210837/"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;.  It's good to know where you come from, or something.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6783623112565643977?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6783623112565643977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6783623112565643977&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6783623112565643977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6783623112565643977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/peanut-butter.html' title='Peanut Butter'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5049048545035756810</id><published>2009-02-09T05:55:00.007-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-09T06:05:47.837-06:00</updated><title type='text'>What Facebook doesn't know...</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZAawmclTNI/AAAAAAAAAC4/o7yOZhOLZjk/s1600-h/noname"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZAawmclTNI/AAAAAAAAAC4/o7yOZhOLZjk/s200/noname" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5300766183671549138" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...is that's me in the picture!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scott:  "Hi, facebook."&lt;br /&gt;Facebook:  "Hi Scott.  Say, do you know about Nazarene Theological Seminary?  Six of your friends are fans!"&lt;br /&gt;Scott:  "Why, yes I do.  I've been attending for almost four years."&lt;br /&gt;Facebook:  "Oh."&lt;br /&gt;Scott:  "I guess you really don't pay attention."&lt;br /&gt;Facebook:  "Nah."&lt;br /&gt;Scott:  (sigh).&lt;br /&gt;Facebook:  (sigh).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5049048545035756810?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5049048545035756810/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5049048545035756810&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5049048545035756810'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5049048545035756810'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/what-facebook-doesnt-know.html' title='What Facebook doesn&apos;t know...'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9btvFjcjRUg/SZAawmclTNI/AAAAAAAAAC4/o7yOZhOLZjk/s72-c/noname' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2350745903429537049</id><published>2009-02-08T16:35:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-08T16:36:54.609-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A saying from the Jewish Fathers</title><content type='html'>"It is wise to work as well as to study the Torah: between the two you will forget to sin."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2350745903429537049?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2350745903429537049/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2350745903429537049&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2350745903429537049'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2350745903429537049'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/saying-from-jewish-fathers.html' title='A saying from the Jewish Fathers'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8322373193561416269</id><published>2009-02-07T08:50:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-07T08:54:25.090-06:00</updated><title type='text'>More from Abba Agathon</title><content type='html'>"Someone asked Abba Agathon, 'Which is better, bodily asceticism or interior vigilance?'  The old man replied, 'humanity is like a tree, bodily asceticism is the foliage, interior vigilance the fruit.  According to that which is written, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit shall be cut down and cast into the fire&lt;/span&gt; (Matt. 3:10) it is clear that all our care should be directed towards the fruit, that is to say, guard of the spirit; but it needs the protection and the embellishment of the foliage, which is bodily asceticism.'"&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8322373193561416269?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8322373193561416269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8322373193561416269&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8322373193561416269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8322373193561416269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/more-from-abba-agathon.html' title='More from Abba Agathon'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3888520846015763847</id><published>2009-02-06T09:12:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-06T09:14:02.831-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A "Green" Military?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.slatev.com/player.html?id=10049576001"&gt;Listen for about 1 minute, 8 seconds.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3888520846015763847?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3888520846015763847/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3888520846015763847&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3888520846015763847'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3888520846015763847'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/new-green-military.html' title='A &quot;Green&quot; Military?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-3367805479911700137</id><published>2009-02-05T13:45:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-05T13:49:46.032-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Abba Agathon</title><content type='html'>"It was said concerning Abba Agathon tat some monks came to find him having heard tell of his great discernment.  Wanting to see if he would lose his temper they said to him 'Aren't you that Agathon who is said to be a fornicator and a proud man?'  'Yes, it is very true,' he answered.  The resumed, 'Aren't you that Agathon who is always talking nonsense?'  'I am.'  Again they said, 'Aren't you Agathon the heretic?'  But at that he replied 'I am not a heretic.'  So they asked him 'Tell us why you accepted everything we cast you, but repudiated this last insult.'  He replied 'The first accusations I take to myself, for that is good for my soul.  But heresy is separation from God.  Now i have no wish to be separated from God.'  At this saying they were astonished at his discernment and returned, edified."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-3367805479911700137?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/3367805479911700137/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=3367805479911700137&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3367805479911700137'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/3367805479911700137'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/abba-agathon.html' title='Abba Agathon'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-6773987897926557122</id><published>2009-02-04T07:34:00.005-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-04T07:57:05.583-06:00</updated><title type='text'>For the Spring</title><content type='html'>Not to detract from my previous post . . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Spring semester started a couple weeks ago.  For me it began in a really good module session called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Resurrection in the New Testament&lt;/span&gt; taught by Andy Johnson.  Our texts were:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;N.T. Wright, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Resurrection of the Son of God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joel Green, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Body, Soul, and Human Life&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's a 1,000 pages in jut two books!  We also read six supplement articles on 1 Corinthians 15 , 2 Corinthians 5 and Luke 24.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday I started a class called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sacraments and Asceticism&lt;/span&gt;, which will be taught by Doug Hardy.  Here we are exploring the relationship between the two in terms of the Christian life.  What is it to say "yes" (sacrament) and what is it to say "no" (asceticism)?  We assume that we have to have both working in tandem, otherwise an under sacramental life leads to legalism while an under ascetic life leads to gluttony.  The right balance will teach us about freedom and love, or freedom for love.  Our texts are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joan Chittister, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Rule of Benedict&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shannon Jung, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Sharing Food&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kenan Osborn, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Community, Eucharist, and Spirituality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benedicta Ward, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Sayings of the Desert Fathers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lauren Winner, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Real Sex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Norman Wirzba, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Living the Sabbath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have also started a class called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Congregational Discipleship&lt;/span&gt; with Clair Allen Budd (from Asbury).  This will be my first online class ever.  Our texts are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Norma Cook Everist, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Church as Learning Community&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;James Riley Estep, Jr. (Ed.) &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;C.E.: The Heritage of Christian Education&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charles Foster, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Educating Congregations&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Delia Halverson, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Nuts and Bolts of Christian Education&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michael D. Henderson, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;John Wesley’s Class Meeting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looks like I got my work cut out for me.  Seems like a good way to finish my last semester at seminary!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-6773987897926557122?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/6773987897926557122/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=6773987897926557122&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6773987897926557122'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/6773987897926557122'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/for-spring.html' title='For the Spring'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5955183748520671600</id><published>2009-02-03T08:49:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-03T08:52:46.707-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Way to go, Arizona!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/02/superbowl-porn-arizona"&gt;Porn Interrupts Super Bowl TV Coverage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5955183748520671600?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5955183748520671600/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5955183748520671600&amp;isPopup=true' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5955183748520671600'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5955183748520671600'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/02/way-to-go-arizona.html' title='Way to go, Arizona!'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-1338878864861054041</id><published>2009-01-20T16:16:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-01-20T16:20:08.867-06:00</updated><title type='text'>MTV vs CNN?</title><content type='html'>It's interesting to me that when I searched &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Obama Inauguration&lt;/span&gt; on Google MTV was the first link option over CNN, who was second.  Well, actually the general news results that Google offers was first.  So, fine then, MTV second and CNN third.  But still.  Kinda interesting.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-1338878864861054041?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/1338878864861054041/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=1338878864861054041&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1338878864861054041'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/1338878864861054041'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2009/01/mtv-vs-cnn.html' title='MTV vs CNN?'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2475396810799643893</id><published>2008-12-31T15:02:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-01-13T20:48:56.787-06:00</updated><title type='text'>1 Corinthians 13</title><content type='html'>N. T. Wright comments, “So often at weddings, [1 Corinthians 13] has not often been heard as what it is, namely, a poem about the now/not yet tension of Christian living, and the way in which love, agape, is not so much a virtue to be worked at, though it is surely that as well, as the ultimate bridge, in terms of human character, from present Christian living into the future kingdom” (Resurrection in the New Testament, 296).  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This comes in the middle of a long discourse on how 1 Corinthians is Paul’s attempt to help the Church in Corinth embrace a more Christian eschatology, that is, a view of the end and how it matters in terms how Christians live today.  Paul was concerned that they were being influenced by other worldviews in which they were beginning to think that they had arrived at some kind of final state of perfection or glory.  This poem on love is a way of broadening their imagination to see how on the one hand life in this age flows continuously with life in the next age through the pattern of love that has been revealed/demonstrated in Jesus.  And of course Wright does a good job of showing that Paul was well aware that there was still a distinction between the two ages, but that’s not what I want to talk about right.  I am challenged to think about those relationships in my life where people with whom I am in contact with don’t hear the music from the next age spilling into this one.  They don’t have ears to hear.  I am challenged to be carefully gracious in loving them, as we are not operating on the same ultimate, unquestionable assumptions.  But love.  Love is a music that reaches across assumptional boundaries with a beautiful harmony and a fresh and fascinating aroma.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2475396810799643893?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2475396810799643893/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2475396810799643893&amp;isPopup=true' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2475396810799643893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2475396810799643893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/1-corinthians-13.html' title='1 Corinthians 13'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-8447969160236611233</id><published>2008-12-26T20:20:00.004-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-29T21:56:27.677-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Time and Memory through Benjamin Button</title><content type='html'>***spoiler alert, sort of***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is becoming a tradition on both sides of my family to go and see a movie on Christmas day.  This year we went and saw &lt;a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/thecuriouscaseofbenjaminbutton/"&gt;The Curious Case of Benjamin Button&lt;/a&gt;.  I wasn’t sure how I would respond to this film.  I think it is one of those films that I will find popping up in moments of reflections on life and death.  There are some really provocative aspects to this film.  I found &lt;a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/film/film-reviews/the-curious-case-of-benjamin-button/2008/12/18/1229189802467.html"&gt;the following article&lt;/a&gt; very interesting, especially in light of certain ways of thinking about aging (and life and death) in our world.  It’s interesting what this person (Sandra Hall) says about Fitzgerald turning Twains observation sort of on its head.  While Twain sees the beginning of life as better than the end, Fitzgerald sees the beginning and the end as essentially the same.  Most important, for Fitzgerald, time (and death) have the last word no matter how the life cycle goes.  This is really interesting for me to think about as I prepare for a class on the resurrection in the New Testament.  For Christians death is a reality for everyone, but it is not the last word—resurrection is.  Perhaps most interesting is how Hall (a la Fitzgerald) says that time/death are defeated through memory.  Very interesting for people, i.e. the Church, who exist in memory—a “memory of the future” (says Zizioulas and others) that informs the present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***Update***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I neglected to mention that the The Curious Case of Benjamin Button was originally a short story written by F. Scott Fitzgerald.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also seemed to imply that resurrection is a reality for everyone just as death is.  I don't mean to imply that I am a universalist.  I don't believe we have biblical warrant for universalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also wanted to say more about memory.  Hall says, "Underpinning it all is a meditation on the double-edged nature of time and the spiralling twists a life takes en route to its end. Time is brutal, the film is saying. Fitzgerald was right about that. Yet there can be moments that defeat time by enduring as long as they remain in someone's memory."  That memory defeats time and death is what I found interesting and why I think it links with Church's memory of the future in the Eucharist.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-8447969160236611233?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/8447969160236611233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=8447969160236611233&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8447969160236611233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/8447969160236611233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/time-and-memory-through-benjamin-button.html' title='Time and Memory through Benjamin Button'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-644325183651000128</id><published>2008-12-26T12:23:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-26T12:33:45.304-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The Twelve Days of Christmas</title><content type='html'>I attended a Christmas eve service with my in-laws while I was in Escondido, CA.  During the service the pastor mentioned the twelve days of Christmas song and what each day meant.  This got me thinking again about how the church should think about the Advent and Christmas seasons, especially since next year I will be a dad.  How should I speak about these seasons and their importance in the Church year in light of the cultural phenomenon that is &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Christmas in a consumer capitalistic society&lt;/span&gt;?  How should we think about buying presents?  For what reason do we buy presents?  And all that jazz.  The question I am specifically thinking about right now is how to integrate the full twelve days of Christmas (December 25-January 5).  What are some ways we can actually break free &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;in our homes&lt;/span&gt; from the necessity of spending money.  I am thinking in lines with the Advent Conspiracy, but I am also thinking about how we will spend our time during those actual twelve days.  Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there.  Peace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-644325183651000128?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/644325183651000128/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=644325183651000128&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/644325183651000128'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/644325183651000128'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/twelve-days-of-christmas.html' title='The Twelve Days of Christmas'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7601554896167376949</id><published>2008-12-23T09:40:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-23T09:51:01.218-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Ol' Brueggy at it again</title><content type='html'>This gave me pause for reflection this morning.  In a few months I will become a dad.  I have been thinking that the best thing I can do for my kids is to teach them to make sense of their world (their reality, their experience) according to a worldview whose foundational, unquestionable assumption is that Jesus is Lord ON THEIR OWN TERMS (terms being a loaded word, of course) and IN LIGHT OF THOSE WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE THEM.  This is nothing new, of course.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In the traditioning process of retelling and retelling in order to make faith possible for the next generation, each version of retelling (of which there were surely many in the long-term process) intends, perforce, that its particular retelling should be the 'final' and surely the correct one.  in the event, however, no account of traditioning turns out to be the 'final' one, but each act of traditioning is eventually overcome and in fact displaced ('superseded') by a fresher version.  The later, displacing form of the tradition no doubt is assumed to be the 'final and correct' one, but is in turn sure to be overcome and, in part, displaced by subsequent versions of the memory.  The complexity of the text evident on any careful reading is due to the happy reality that as new acts o traditioning overcome and partly displace older materials, the older material is retained alongside newer tradition.  That retention is a happy one, because it very often happens that a still later traditionist returns to and finds useful older, 'discarded' material though to be beyond use."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7601554896167376949?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7601554896167376949/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7601554896167376949&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7601554896167376949'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7601554896167376949'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/ol-brueggy-at-it-again.html' title='Ol&apos; Brueggy at it again'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-4728004624221029131</id><published>2008-12-14T22:03:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-14T22:12:30.247-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Katie's new article</title><content type='html'>My lovely wife has written another article for &lt;a href="http://www.barefootministries.com/nphweb/html/cmol/index.jsp"&gt;Credo&lt;/a&gt;.  This one is called &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.barefootministries.com/nphweb/html/cmol/articleDisplay.jsp?mediaId=2397913&amp;nid=artt"&gt;Why Giving is Better than (For)getting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.  In this one she asks us to have a better memory about the nature of giving during the Christmas season.  When we forget our story (God's story) and Saints like Nicholas we are all the more vulnerable to be formed by the story of consumerism and what it says is true about the world.  If you want to check out an alternative Christmas practice, look up &lt;a href="http://www.adventconspiracy.org/"&gt;Advent Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-4728004624221029131?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/4728004624221029131/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=4728004624221029131&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4728004624221029131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/4728004624221029131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/katies-new-article.html' title='Katie&apos;s new article'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-9212351642170800636</id><published>2008-12-14T17:12:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-14T17:21:11.342-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Watchmen</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/E4blSrZvPhU&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/E4blSrZvPhU&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm in the middle of reading the story.  Looking forward to the movie.  Post if you want to talk about it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-9212351642170800636?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/9212351642170800636/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=9212351642170800636&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9212351642170800636'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/9212351642170800636'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/watchmen.html' title='Watchmen'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-5088045220848323104</id><published>2008-12-06T16:48:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-06T17:03:18.303-06:00</updated><title type='text'>One by Walter</title><content type='html'>The Little Gate to God&lt;br /&gt;By Walter Rauschenbusch&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the castle of my soul&lt;br /&gt;Is a little postern gate,&lt;br /&gt;Whereat, when I enter,&lt;br /&gt;I am in the presence of God.&lt;br /&gt;In a moment, in the turning of a thought,&lt;br /&gt;I am where God is.&lt;br /&gt;This is a fact.&lt;br /&gt;This world of ours has length and breadth,&lt;br /&gt;A superficial and horizontal world.&lt;br /&gt;When I am with God&lt;br /&gt;I look deep down and high up.&lt;br /&gt;And all is changed.&lt;br /&gt;The world of men is made of jangling noises.&lt;br /&gt;With God it is a great silence.&lt;br /&gt;But that silence is a melody&lt;br /&gt;Sweet as the contentment of love,&lt;br /&gt;Thrilling as a touch of flame.&lt;br /&gt;In this world my days are few&lt;br /&gt;And full of trouble.&lt;br /&gt;I strive and have not;&lt;br /&gt;I seek and find not;&lt;br /&gt;I ask and learn not.&lt;br /&gt;Its joys are so fleeting,&lt;br /&gt;Its pains are so enduring,&lt;br /&gt;I am in doubt if life be worth living.&lt;br /&gt;When I enter into God,&lt;br /&gt;All life has a meaning.&lt;br /&gt;Without asking, I know;&lt;br /&gt;My desires are even now fulfilled,&lt;br /&gt;MY fever is gone&lt;br /&gt;In the great quiet of God.&lt;br /&gt;My troubles are but pebbles on the road,&lt;br /&gt;My joys are like the everlasting hills,&lt;br /&gt;So it is when I step through the gate of prayer&lt;br /&gt;From time into eternity.&lt;br /&gt;When I am in the consciousness of God&lt;br /&gt;Those whom I love&lt;br /&gt;Have a mystic value.&lt;br /&gt;They shine, as if a light were glowing within them.&lt;br /&gt;Even those who frown on me&lt;br /&gt;And love me not&lt;br /&gt;Seem part of a great scheme of good.&lt;br /&gt;(or else they seem like stray bumble bees&lt;br /&gt;Buzzing at a window,&lt;br /&gt;Headed the wrong way, yet seeking the light.)&lt;br /&gt;So it is wen my soul steps through the postern gate&lt;br /&gt;Into the presence of God.&lt;br /&gt;Big things become small, and small things become great.&lt;br /&gt;The near becomes far, and the future is near.&lt;br /&gt;The lowly and despised is shot through with glory,&lt;br /&gt;And most of human power and greatness&lt;br /&gt;Seems as full of internal iniquities&lt;br /&gt;As a carcass is full of maggots.&lt;br /&gt;God is the substance of all revolutions;&lt;br /&gt;When I am in him, I am in the Kingdom of God&lt;br /&gt;And the Fatherland of my Soul.&lt;br /&gt;Is it strange that I love God?&lt;br /&gt;And when I come back through the gate,&lt;br /&gt;Do you wonder that I carry memories with me,&lt;br /&gt;And my eyes are hot with unshed tears for what I see.&lt;br /&gt;And I feel like a stranger and a homeless man&lt;br /&gt;Where the poor are wasted for gain.&lt;br /&gt;Where rivers run red,&lt;br /&gt;And where God's sunlight is darkened by lies?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God's sunlight shine again.  Thy kingdom come, God!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-5088045220848323104?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/5088045220848323104/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=5088045220848323104&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5088045220848323104'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/5088045220848323104'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/one-by-walter.html' title='One by Walter'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-7233935324051692505</id><published>2008-12-04T16:36:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2008-12-04T16:46:32.670-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Rowan Williams on Christian Faith</title><content type='html'>"Christian Faith has its beginnings in an experience of profound contradictoriness, an experience that so questioned the religious categories of its time that the resulting organization of religious language was a centuries-long task.  At one level indeed, it is a task that every generation has to undertake again.  And if 'spirituality' can be given any coherent meaning, perhaps it is to be understood in terms of this task: each believer making his or her own that engagement with the questioning at the heart of faith which is so evident in the classical documents of Christian belief.  That is not, it must be said, to recommend any of the currently fashionable varieties of relativism or to romanticize a wistful 'half-belief.'  The questioning involved here is not our interrogation of the data, but its interrogation of us.  It is that intractable strangeness of the ground of belief that must constantly be allowed to challenge the fixed assumptions of religiosity; it is a given, whose question to each succeeding age is fundamentally one and the same.  And the greatness of the great Christian saints lies in their readiness to be questioned, judged, stripped naked and left speechless by that which lies at the center of their faith."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rowan Williams, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Wound of Knowledge: Christian Spirituality from the New Testament to Saint John of the Cross&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-7233935324051692505?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/7233935324051692505/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=7233935324051692505&amp;isPopup=true' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7233935324051692505'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/7233935324051692505'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/12/rowan-williams-on-christian-faith.html' title='Rowan Williams on Christian Faith'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-297857047950016238</id><published>2008-11-30T08:31:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2008-11-30T08:33:36.415-06:00</updated><title type='text'>First Sunday in Advent</title><content type='html'>O come, O come, Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;And ransom captive Israel&lt;br /&gt;That mourns in lonely exile here&lt;br /&gt;Until the Son of God appear&lt;br /&gt;Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;Shall come to thee, O Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O come, Thou Rod of Jesse, free&lt;br /&gt;Thine own from Satan's tyranny&lt;br /&gt;From depths of Hell Thy people save&lt;br /&gt;And give them victory o'er the grave&lt;br /&gt;Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;Shall come to thee, O Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O come, Thou Day-Spring, come and cheer&lt;br /&gt;Our spirits by Thine advent here&lt;br /&gt;Disperse the gloomy clouds of night&lt;br /&gt;And death's dark shadows put to flight.&lt;br /&gt;Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;Shall come to thee, O Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O come, Thou Key of David, come,&lt;br /&gt;And open wide our heavenly home;&lt;br /&gt;Make safe the way that leads on high,&lt;br /&gt;And close the path to misery.&lt;br /&gt;Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;Shall come to thee, O Israel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O come, O come, Thou Lord of might,&lt;br /&gt;Who to Thy tribes, on Sinai's height,&lt;br /&gt;In ancient times did'st give the Law,&lt;br /&gt;In cloud, and majesty and awe.&lt;br /&gt;Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel&lt;br /&gt;Shall come to thee, O Israel.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-297857047950016238?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/297857047950016238/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=297857047950016238&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/297857047950016238'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/297857047950016238'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/11/advent-b-2008.html' title='First Sunday in Advent'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21508875.post-2323737105812334462</id><published>2008-11-24T19:28:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-11-24T19:32:18.947-06:00</updated><title type='text'>music</title><content type='html'>I just want to through it out there that right now my favorite stations on &lt;a href="http://www.pandora.com"&gt;Pandora&lt;/a&gt; are &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Gillian Welch radio&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Gregorian Chant radio&lt;/span&gt;.  However, I am always looking for good suggestions.  What do you all recommend on Pandora?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/21508875-2323737105812334462?l=twoemptyhands.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/feeds/2323737105812334462/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21508875&amp;postID=2323737105812334462&amp;isPopup=true' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2323737105812334462'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/21508875/posts/default/2323737105812334462'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://twoemptyhands.blogspot.com/2008/11/music.html' title='music'/><author><name>Scott Savage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01158748331493342958</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry></feed>
